NODE ebea62bdFBI calls for mandatory key escrow; Denning on export ctrls
Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>Thu, 4 Sep 1997 05:37:49 +0800
All encryption products sold or distributed in the U.S.
must have a key escrow backdoor "like an airbag in a car,"
law enforcement agents advised a Senate panel this
afternoon.
FBI Director Louis Freeh also told a Senate Judiciary
subcommittee that "network service providers should be
required to have some immediate decryption ability
available" permitting agents to readily descramble
encrypted messages that pass through their system.
This marks the most aggressive push to date for
mandatory domestic key escrow (or "key recovery"),
which means someone else other than the recipient can
decipher messages you send out. Now, the easiest way
to win such a political tussle in Washington is to
control the terms of the debate. And nobody
understands that rule better than Sen. Jon Kyl
(R-Arizona), chair of the Judiciary subcommittee on
technology, terrorism, and government information.
Kyl opened today's hearing not by saying its purpose
was to discuss crypto in a balanced manner, but that
he wanted "to explore how encryption is affecting the
way we deal with criminals, terrorists, and the
security needs of business." Then he talked at length
about "criminals and terrorists" using crypto, and
child pornographers "using encryption to hide
pornographic images of children that they transmit
across the Internet."
Kyl also stacked the three panels. Out of seven
witnesses, five were current or former law enforcement
agents. No privacy or civil liberties advocates
testified. Some companies including FedEx apparently
dropped out when told they'd have to pay lip service
to key escrow if they wanted to speak.
Dorothy Denning, a Georgetown University professor of
computer science, did testify. Kyl made a point of
asking her if she still supported key escrow systems
(two recent articles by Will Rodger and Simson
Garfinkel said she was changing her mind). "I think
key recovery offers a very attractive approach,"
Denning said. What about export controls? "In the
absence of any controls, the problem for law
enforcement would get worse," she replied.
But when Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif) asked if
Denning would support a *mandatory* key escrow system,
the computer scientist said she wouldn't. "No, because
we don't have a lot of experience we key recovery
systems... a lot of people are legitimately nervous."
(Keep in mind that although Feinstein supposedly
represents Silicon Valley, she's no friend of high
tech firms. She opposes lifting export controls; in
fact, she says that "nothing other than some form of
mandatory key recovery really does the job" of
preventing crime. Of course, Feinstein doesn't have a
clue. She talks about whether businesses would want "a
hard key or digital key or a key infrastructure." Yes,
folks, this is in fact meaningless blather.)
Marc Rotenberg, director of the Electronic Privacy
Information Center in Washington, DC, says, "Simply
stated, the Senate train is headed in the wrong
direction. But of course this doesn't answer the
question of what will ultimately be resolved by
Congress? There's a very popular measure in the House
right now that's heading in a different direction."
Rotenberg is talking about Rep. Bob Goodlatte's SAFE
bill, which is much more pro-business than S.909,
the McCain-Kerrey Senate bill that Kyl supports. Now,
S.909 doesn't mandate key recovery; it only strongly
encourages it by wielding the federal government's
purchasing power to jumpstart a key recovery
infrastructure.
But Kyl would go further. At a recent Heritage
Foundation roundtable on encryption, I asked him, "Why
not make key recovery technology mandatory -- after
all, terrorists, drug kingpins and other criminals
won't use it otherwise. Kyl's response? Not that it
would be a violation of Constitutional due process and
search and seizure protections or a bad idea. Instead,
he told me he simply didn't have enough votes...
-Declan
NODE 4683a79cRe: FBI calls for mandatory key escrow; Denning on export ctrls
Will Rodger <rodger@worldnet.att.net>Thu, 4 Sep 1997 06:23:39 +0800
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>All encryption products sold or distributed in the U.S.
>must have a key escrow backdoor "like an airbag in a car,"
>law enforcement agents advised a Senate panel this
>afternoon.
Yes, but - Freeh said all products needed to have the _option_ of a
key-escrow backdoor built in. The actual deployment of the system
should be at the users' discretion. Then again, Sen. Feinstein
suggested he needed mandatory key escrow since there was no way to
make a voluntary system work. Freeh seemed to warm to the idea of
making key escrow mandatory.
"Mandatory key escrow would the best solution - I have to be candid
with you on that," he said.
Unfortunately, he added, mandatory key escrow isn't a possibility -
or foolproof, either.
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NODE 4d9e457dRe: FBI calls for mandatory key escrow; Denning on export ctrls
Will Rodger <rodger@worldnet.att.net>Fri, 5 Sep 1997 05:50:05 +0800
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>Will is right to say Feinstein was harping on mandatory key escrow
the
>entire time. I disagree, though, that Freeh "seemed to warm" to the
idea;
>it's been a wet dream of the FBI for the longest time.
Uh - duh. Actually we agree entirely.
"Seemed to warm" is - uncharacteristic as it may seem - an deliberate
understatement.
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NODE b6073ad9Re: FBI calls for mandatory key escrow; Denning on export ctrls
Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>Thu, 4 Sep 1997 07:01:45 +0800
On Wed, 3 Sep 1997, Will Rodger wrote:
> Yes, but - Freeh said all products needed to have the _option_ of a
> key-escrow backdoor built in. The actual deployment of the system
> should be at the users' discretion. Then again, Sen. Feinstein
> suggested he needed mandatory key escrow since there was no way to
> make a voluntary system work. Freeh seemed to warm to the idea of
> making key escrow mandatory.
Will is right to say Feinstein was harping on mandatory key escrow the
entire time. I disagree, though, that Freeh "seemed to warm" to the idea;
it's been a wet dream of the FBI for the longest time. Towards the end of
his testimony he was perhaps less guarded in his calls for it, that's all.
As for the backdoor, Freeh was vague on what that would mean. At one point
he said it could be done in a mandatory or voluntary manner as long as it
got done. At another he talked about mandating it but giving users the
option to turn it off -- but then what's the use of mandating it? I've
attached some excerpts from the transcript below that might be helpful.
> Unfortunately, he added, mandatory key escrow isn't a possibility -
> or foolproof, either.
I didn't catch him saying mandatory k.e. isn't a possibility, but he did
admit it wasn't foolproof. Check out the transcript.
-Declan
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[Louis Freeh is talking]
Here we're not saying the key recovery standard X, Y, Z. We're telling
the manufacturers that they need to have a feature that would allow
immediate decryption, and they can do that in the cheapest, most efficient
way that they can design. And I think they can do that fairly easily.
[...]
There are a number of ways that that could be
implemented, but what we believe we need as a minimum
is a feature implemented and designed by the
manufacturers of the products and services here that
will allow law enforcement to have an immediate lawful
decryption of the communications in transit or the
stored data. That could be done in a mandatory
manner. It could be done in an involuntary manner.
But the key is that we would have the ability, once we
have the court order in hand, to get that information
and get it real-time without waiting for what it would
take for a supercomputer to give us, which is too long
for life or safety reasons.
[...]
Mandatory key recovery, to the extent that
it was implemented, would be the best law enforcement
solution. I would not be candid with you if I told
you anything other than that.
[...]
I think we can design a system short of mandatory key
recovery which will work certainly better than no
system at all. And I think the precepts of 909 and
some additions which could be added thereto will give
law enforcement at least a fighting chance, which is
really what we're asking for in this context, to keep
a technique which is very valuable. I don't think
we'll ever solve the problem 100 percent. There are
loopholes now. There will be loopholes even with a
mandatory key recovery system. What we want to try to
do is design an infrastructure which will give us as
many access points for that court order as possible.
And that's the end game that we're involved in right
now.
NODE bda19b98Re: FBI calls for mandatory key escrow; Denning on export ctrls
TruthMonger <tm@dev.null>Thu, 4 Sep 1997 08:44:50 +0800
Declan McCullagh wrote:
>
> All encryption products sold or distributed in the U.S.
> must have a key escrow backdoor "like an airbag in a car,"
> law enforcement agents advised a Senate panel this
> afternoon.
I must have not been given the proper ballots when I voted. I didn't
see the FBI or any other LEA on *my* ballot. If these people are going
to be running the country, and making the decisions as to what does and
does not constitute threats to the citizens and the country and the
world, shouldn't we have some say in who they are?
> Kyl opened today's hearing not by saying its purpose
> was to discuss crypto in a balanced manner, but that
> he wanted "to explore how encryption is affecting the
> way we deal with criminals, terrorists, and the
> security needs of business."
Yoo-hoo! Over here! Yoo-hoo! It's the CITIZENS! We still exist!
> Then he talked at length
> about "criminals and terrorists" using crypto, and
> child pornographers "using encryption to hide
> pornographic images of children that they transmit
> across the Internet."
If we imprison more of our citizen-units than most dictatorships, then
who the fuck are we imprisoning?
Are we *not* imprisoning criminals, terrorists and child pornographers
and other scum? What percentage of the population needs to consist of
LEA agents, and what percentage of the population must we imprison in
order to put away criminals, terrorists and child pornographers?
50%?...80%...100%?
> Kyl also stacked the three panels. Out of seven
> witnesses, five were current or former law enforcement
> agents. No privacy or civil liberties advocates
> testified.
That's right. The correct answer is 71% LEA agents, and
100% of the citizens in prison.
I hate to support this approach to law enforcement, but if the people
in charge of the safety of the nation and its citizens cannot prevent
criminals, terrorists and child pornographers from running rampant with
the mountains of laws and technology currently at their fingertips, then
I guess we'll just have to pass more laws and put all munitions and
privacy technology in the hands of the LEA's.
Besides, the citizen-units will be 'happier' in prison, where they can
get the really *good* drugs and indulge in anal sex without fear of
imprisonment.
TruthMonger