NODE 2c376da9Missing Kids and Porn Links
Damaged Justice <frogfarm@yakko.cs.wmich.edu>Wed, 3 Sep 1997 09:44:04 +0800
[Relevant for all recent discussions on "linking without permission", as
well as the usual childpornhysteriamongering.]
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Missing Children Pix On Websites Overpopular
****Missing Children Pix On Websites Overpopular 09/02/97 SEATTLE,
WASHINGTON, U.S.A., 1997 AUG 29 (NB) -- By Bruce Miller. The National
Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) encourages the
owners of Web sites to add a link that will bring up the picture of a
different missing child every ten minutes. According to Ruben
Rodriguez, Supervisor of the Exploited Child Unit, the Center is
getting 70 to 80 requests a day for information to create the link.
Some sites, however, have taken the initiative themselves, including
pornographic Web sites.
"This is the kiss of death for us," said Rodriguez. "We want the
public to help us find missing and exploited children. The Internet
public is coming to us to display our banner on our sites.
Unfortunately, there are some locations on the Internet that are
inappropriate."
One popular porn site proclaims on its home page that, "This Site
Cares About Our Young Children! Please Take A Few Seconds To Look At
The Pictures Of The Missing Children!! Every Ten Minutes When You
Reload A Different Child's Picture Appears! If We Can Save Just ONE!
Then Wouldn't That Be Worth It?" That particular site, said Rodriguez,
will get a cease and desist letter from the Center's chief legal
counsel.
The popularity of linking to the rotating banner has added to another
problem: load capacity on the Web server hosting the Center. With a
million hits a day presently, and growing, the Center is looking
around for a new site with greater capacity to eliminate congestion.
For information about signing up with the banner program, send e-mail
to banner@ncmec.com. Be patient, the popularity has put the staff a
bit behind in responding.
NCMEC's Web site is at [3]http://www.missingkids.com ; mirror site
[4]http://www.missingkids.org .
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NODE e157f19fRe: Missing Kids and Porn Links
Mike Duvos <enoch@zipcon.net>Wed, 3 Sep 1997 12:09:59 +0800
Damaged Justice <frogfarm@yakko.cs.wmich.edu> writes:
> The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children
> (NCMEC) encourages the owners of Web sites to add a link
> that will bring up the picture of a different missing child
> every ten minutes. According to Ruben Rodriguez, Supervisor
> of the Exploited Child Unit, the Center is getting 70 to 80
> requests a day for information to create the link. Some
> sites, however, have taken the initiative themselves,
> including pornographic Web sites.
> One popular porn site proclaims on its home page that,
> "This Site Cares About Our Young Children! Please Take A Few
> Seconds To Look At The Pictures Of The Missing Children!!
> Every Ten Minutes When You Reload A Different Child's
> Picture Appears! If We Can Save Just ONE! Then Wouldn't That
> Be Worth It?" That particular site, said Rodriguez, will get
> a cease and desist letter from the Center's chief legal
> counsel.
The thing to realize here is that NCMEC is an agency which
receives almost 100% of its funding from government agencies, one
of which is the Juvenile Justice division of the US DOJ.
It has about as much to do with childrens' rights as aardvarks
have to do with starship design. It exists primarily so that
news organizations can point and say "Childrens' Advocates
Praised the President's Decision" every time childrens' civil
liberties are further reduced, or some laughable new definition
of child porn is criminalized.
In addition, it helps to conduct the war against imagined
pedophiles, both at home and abroad, and enforces the property
rights of parents against any minor under the age of 18 who dares
to leave their bed and board. These two agendas may be easily
combined, since if one is not with ones parents, one is obviously
in the clutches of an exaltation of pedophiles grooming one for a
life of sexual depravity.
While reasonable people would see little problem in popular adult
web sites also posting missing childrens' pictures, NCMEC toes
the child sex hysteric party line, and accepts links only from
ideologically pure "Save the Children" organizations, like CPAC,
which engage in content-based harrassment of perfectly legal
material, and which subscribe to the doctrine of "Voodoo
Molestation" when otherwise ordinary photographs are viewed.
If you're a missing or exploited child, seek the services of a
good childrens' legal advocate, not NCMEC, unless of course you
wish to have your picture on numerous grocery items, be returned
to your parents in handcuffs, and be used to promote someone
elses political agenda, the only "services" NCMEC has ever
managed to provide to children in need.
--
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NODE d4afc57dRe: Missing Kids and Porn Links
Alan <alan@ctrl-alt-del.com>Thu, 4 Sep 1997 02:20:46 +0800
At 11:38 PM 9/2/97 -0500, Igor Chudov @ home wrote:
>
>Most of people who publicly "care for children" are hidden pedophiles or
>control freaks, in my humble opinion.
I believe that many of them are people who feed off of the
endorphin/adreniline rush of being "outraged". They need something to get
upset about. Who cares if it is real or who gets hurt? They are "doing
good by getting pissed". It is that "moral outrage" that makes them forget
just how worthless and pathetic their own lives are.
It would be pretty sad if was not for the fact that so many people buy into
their moral crusades.
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NODE 85eb8a34Re: Missing Kids and Porn Links
ichudov@Algebra.COM (Igor Chudov @ home)Wed, 3 Sep 1997 12:46:24 +0800
Most of people who publicly "care for children" are hidden pedophiles or
control freaks, in my humble opinion.
igor
Mike Duvos wrote:
>
>
> Damaged Justice <frogfarm@yakko.cs.wmich.edu> writes:
>
> > The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children
> > (NCMEC) encourages the owners of Web sites to add a link
> > that will bring up the picture of a different missing child
> > every ten minutes. According to Ruben Rodriguez, Supervisor
> > of the Exploited Child Unit, the Center is getting 70 to 80
> > requests a day for information to create the link. Some
> > sites, however, have taken the initiative themselves,
> > including pornographic Web sites.
>
> > One popular porn site proclaims on its home page that,
> > "This Site Cares About Our Young Children! Please Take A Few
> > Seconds To Look At The Pictures Of The Missing Children!!
> > Every Ten Minutes When You Reload A Different Child's
> > Picture Appears! If We Can Save Just ONE! Then Wouldn't That
> > Be Worth It?" That particular site, said Rodriguez, will get
> > a cease and desist letter from the Center's chief legal
> > counsel.
>
> The thing to realize here is that NCMEC is an agency which
> receives almost 100% of its funding from government agencies, one
> of which is the Juvenile Justice division of the US DOJ.
>
> It has about as much to do with childrens' rights as aardvarks
> have to do with starship design. It exists primarily so that
> news organizations can point and say "Childrens' Advocates
> Praised the President's Decision" every time childrens' civil
> liberties are further reduced, or some laughable new definition
> of child porn is criminalized.
>
> In addition, it helps to conduct the war against imagined
> pedophiles, both at home and abroad, and enforces the property
> rights of parents against any minor under the age of 18 who dares
> to leave their bed and board. These two agendas may be easily
> combined, since if one is not with ones parents, one is obviously
> in the clutches of an exaltation of pedophiles grooming one for a
> life of sexual depravity.
>
> While reasonable people would see little problem in popular adult
> web sites also posting missing childrens' pictures, NCMEC toes
> the child sex hysteric party line, and accepts links only from
> ideologically pure "Save the Children" organizations, like CPAC,
> which engage in content-based harrassment of perfectly legal
> material, and which subscribe to the doctrine of "Voodoo
> Molestation" when otherwise ordinary photographs are viewed.
>
> If you're a missing or exploited child, seek the services of a
> good childrens' legal advocate, not NCMEC, unless of course you
> wish to have your picture on numerous grocery items, be returned
> to your parents in handcuffs, and be used to promote someone
> elses political agenda, the only "services" NCMEC has ever
> managed to provide to children in need.
>
> --
> Mike Duvos $ PGP 2.6 Public Key available $
> enoch@zipcon.com $ via Finger $
> {Free Cypherpunk Political Prisoner Jim Bell}
>
- Igor.
NODE 54968910Re: Missing Kids and Porn Links
TruthMonger <tm@dev.null>Wed, 3 Sep 1997 14:38:48 +0800
Damaged Justice wrote:
> [Relevant for all recent discussions on "linking without permission", as
> well as the usual childpornhysteriamongering.]
> [2]Newsbytes Advertising
> Missing Children Pix On Websites Overpopular
>
> ****Missing Children Pix On Websites Overpopular 09/02/97 SEATTLE,
> WASHINGTON, U.S.A., 1997 AUG 29 (NB) -- By Bruce Miller. The National
> Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) encourages the
> owners of Web sites to add a link that will bring up the picture of a
> different missing child every ten minutes. According to Ruben
> Rodriguez, Supervisor of the Exploited Child Unit, the Center is
> getting 70 to 80 requests a day for information to create the link.
> Some sites, however, have taken the initiative themselves, including
> pornographic Web sites.
>
> "This is the kiss of death for us," said Rodriguez. "We want the
> public to help us find missing and exploited children. The Internet
> public is coming to us to display our banner on our sites.
> Unfortunately, there are some locations on the Internet that are
> inappropriate."
We *must* take immediate action to prevent missing children from being
found by people who don't consider nudity shameful, people who smoke,
fat people, Jewish people, people with more than three speeding
tickets...
ConcernedMonger