NODE e1d21336Oxley crypto update: vote in 90 minutes
Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>Thu, 25 Sep 1997 02:23:13 +0800
Today's vote will be held in less than two hours. Keep in mind that this is
just one committee out of five that's considering the SAFE bill. The impact
of the committee's draft of SAFE is not nearly as important, IMHO, as the
political impact of the vote. Can one of the nation's richest industries
muster up the votes to defeat law enforcement -- in the //Commerce//
committee, of all places? Many eyes will be watching the committee today.
I hear that Oxley is nervous and has been calling people he never did
before. His staff tells me that yes, he has been calling everyone on the
committee. He'll be distributing letters of support from groups --
including law enforcement groups in California -- that will buttress his
amendment. Oxley's staff tells me the version of Oxley II posted by CDT is
almost certainly inaccurate and out of date. Solomon, chair of House Rules,
is circulating a letter saying only SAFE with Oxley will go to the floor.
The pressure's on. Rumors are flying that industry may cut a deal (perhaps
brokered by White) that may give up civil liberties in exchange for export
controls. We'll see soon. As of yesterday Oxley appeared to have a majority
of perhaps 32-34 out of the 51 or so people on the committee.
-Declan
>In case anybody is counting votes, my own congressman (Brian Bilbray, R-CA)
>sits on the House Commerce committee. I just got a call back from his
>staff saying that Bilbray opposes the Oxley amendment and continues
>to support the original SAFE bill, which he co-sponsored.
>
>Any other word on how today's vote is going?
>
>Phil
NODE eaf586a2Re: Oxley crypto update: vote in 90 minutes
Jonah Seiger <jseiger@cdt.org>Thu, 25 Sep 1997 02:36:29 +0800
A little more news:
I've been told that the Bell companies have issued a statement saying that
they remain opposed to Oxley II despite Oxley's attempts to bring them on
board. This is good news -- the bell companies hold a lot of sway on the
Commerce Committee and their opposition is politically valuable to us.
I'd be surprised if the version of Oxley II posted on our site is
inaccurate (it's dated 12:14 pm yesterday), but it is possible that there
is an Oxley III floating around somewhere. Perhaps they are just trying
to throw you off the scent.
Solomon's statement that only SAFE w/Oxley will go to the floor is also
good news -- it means that chances of anything passing this session are
that much lower.
More as it comes,
Jonah (rooting for gridlock)
At 2:02 PM -0400 9/24/97, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>Today's vote will be held in less than two hours. Keep in mind that this is
>just one committee out of five that's considering the SAFE bill. The impact
>of the committee's draft of SAFE is not nearly as important, IMHO, as the
>political impact of the vote. Can one of the nation's richest industries
>muster up the votes to defeat law enforcement -- in the //Commerce//
>committee, of all places? Many eyes will be watching the committee today.
>
>I hear that Oxley is nervous and has been calling people he never did
>before. His staff tells me that yes, he has been calling everyone on the
>committee. He'll be distributing letters of support from groups --
>including law enforcement groups in California -- that will buttress his
>amendment. Oxley's staff tells me the version of Oxley II posted by CDT is
>almost certainly inaccurate and out of date. Solomon, chair of House Rules,
>is circulating a letter saying only SAFE with Oxley will go to the floor.
>
>The pressure's on. Rumors are flying that industry may cut a deal (perhaps
>brokered by White) that may give up civil liberties in exchange for export
>controls. We'll see soon. As of yesterday Oxley appeared to have a majority
>of perhaps 32-34 out of the 51 or so people on the committee.
>
>-Declan
>
>
>>In case anybody is counting votes, my own congressman (Brian Bilbray, R-CA)
>>sits on the House Commerce committee. I just got a call back from his
>>staff saying that Bilbray opposes the Oxley amendment and continues
>>to support the original SAFE bill, which he co-sponsored.
>>
>>Any other word on how today's vote is going?
>>
>>Phil
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NODE 1bf759feRe: Oxley crypto update: vote in 90 minutes
Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>Thu, 25 Sep 1997 02:42:42 +0800
On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, Jonah Seiger wrote:
> I'd be surprised if the version of Oxley II posted on our site is
> inaccurate (it's dated 12:14 pm yesterday), but it is possible that there
> is an Oxley III floating around somewhere.
Like all language at this point, it's in flux. Oxley's staff says they
were working on this through late yesterday afternoon. But I suspect the
changes (if any) aren't going to substantially reshape the amendment.
-Declan