NODE ec322a9fRe: Remailers and ecash
Anonymous <anon@anon.efga.org>Tue, 30 Sep 1997 06:00:22 +0800
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Robert A. Costner wrote:
>The only thing I have heard you mention is latency, which is a
>feature programmed into the remailers. If anything, people would pay
>to add latency, not to take latency away.
And another point: Nobody wants to add latency. (There may be a few
applications, but they are rare.)
What people want is security and one way to get it (sometimes) is by
adding latency to their messages.
Ideally, you would send a message and it would arrive at its
destination in milliseconds with complete security.
Monty Cantsin
Editor in Chief
Smile Magazine
http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html
http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.html
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NODE ee5b68caRe: Remailers and ecash
Bill Stewart <stewarts@ix.netcom.com>Wed, 1 Oct 1997 09:59:54 +0800
>And another point: Nobody wants to add latency. (There may be a few
>applications, but they are rare.)
>What people want is security and one way to get it (sometimes) is by
>adding latency to their messages.
Latency is essential to security, though high volume reduces the latency
that's
needed to get a given level of security. It's not enough - if your latency
is a
constant, it doesn't buy you anything, and if there's not enough traffic,
the fact that the remailer waited 3 days before sending out the one message it
received doesn't help much either. But if it's low, and relatively
predictable,
you lose rapidly to traffic analysis instead of potentially losing slowly.
Lucky's point that traffic analysts can learn a lot because messages decrease
in size in type-1 remailer networks is important; Mixmaster's constant-size
message blocks are probably the best way to go (though you then need
more random interblock latency), but the ability to have each remailer
add padding is important if you don't use fixed-size blocks, and I'm not aware
of anybody implementing that. (The obvious implementation would be for
remailers that randomly pick another remailer to chain through to reach
their destination, since they could put padding inside the encrypted package.)
Thanks!
Bill
Bill Stewart, stewarts@ix.netcom.com
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