6 weeks in jail for carrying vitamins [CNN]

>          MAN SPENDS 6 WEEKS IN JAIL AFTER VITAMINS MISTAKEN FOR HEROIN
>                                        
>      October 29, 1997
>      Web posted at: 7:21 p.m. EST (0021 GMT)
>      
>      NORTH CHARLESTON, South Carolina (AP) -- For six weeks, Malvin
>      Marshall sat in jail because police thought he was carrying heroin
>      in his pocket. Police didn't believe him when he said it was mushy
>      vitamins.
>      
>      On Monday, the charges were dropped. Lab tests showed he was
>      carrying mushy vitamins.

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At 05:25 PM 10/29/97 -0700, Tim May wrote:
>At 6:06 PM -0700 10/29/97, Jim Choate wrote:
>>>          MAN SPENDS 6 WEEKS IN JAIL AFTER VITAMINS MISTAKEN FOR HEROIN
>>>
>>>      October 29, 1997
>>>      Web posted at: 7:21 p.m. EST (0021 GMT)
>>>
>>>      NORTH CHARLESTON, South Carolina (AP) -- For six weeks, Malvin
>>>      Marshall sat in jail because police thought he was carrying heroin
>>>      in his pocket. Police didn't believe him when he said it was mushy
>>>      vitamins.
>>>
>>>      On Monday, the charges were dropped. Lab tests showed he was
>>>      carrying mushy vitamins.
>
>And he doesn't stand a chance of suing them successfully.
>
>No wonder some people support Assassination Politics.
>
>(Personally, were I to be arrested and held on such false charges, I'd
>consider it necessary to kill those who illegally held me. Preferably from
>a safe distance, with a sniper rifle. But then I'm a right wing libertarian
>whacko.)

Why screw around with a sniper rifle when you can get Chinese clones of the
Stinger missile for $700-800?  Besides, they can come in handy when they
send in the helicopters with mounted machine guns a la Waco.

Mrs. Shirley Allen has been captured and is getting her mandatory
psychiatric exam.  Her family is celebrating, according to ABC news.
Anyone think she will be declared sane?  If so, I have some excellent
Florida swampland for sale...  Reality is a symptom of alcohol deficiency!

ObTongueInCheekFearmongeringThought:
How many Cypherpunks are vulnerable to this "psychiatric imbalance
allegation" attack?  Tim May is obviously an anti-social survivalist gun
freak, (like me, but with a bigger ammo stockpile--I'm jealous) Vulis is
obviously a closet bisexual deviant/pedophile (especially if he posts those
"Timmy Mayonnaise" ASCII art spams), Bill Geiger is a rabid anti-government
extremist a la McVeigh, and TruthMonger--need I say more?  It only takes
one disgruntled relative to "Allen" somebody...which in itself is a
powerful motivation to engage in anti-social behavior.  Hint: Look up what
happened to almost everyone who knew Stalin as a child...


Jonathan Wienke

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Jonathan Wienke wrote:

> ObTongueInCheekFearmongeringThought:
> How many Cypherpunks are vulnerable to this "psychiatric imbalance
> allegation" attack?  Tim May is obviously an anti-social survivalist gun
> freak, (like me, but with a bigger ammo stockpile--I'm jealous) Vulis is
> obviously a closet bisexual deviant/pedophile (especially if he posts those
> "Timmy Mayonnaise" ASCII art spams), Bill Geiger is a rabid anti-government
> extremist a la McVeigh, and TruthMonger--need I say more? 

Question: Is it a sign of low reputation capital when people only have
         to mention your name to make their point?
Answer: Crispin!

Bonus Question: What kind of signature line would lessen the social
stigma
               of being called a "sociopath" by Mark Rogaski?
Answer: "That which does not kill me only makes me stranger."

  Robert Hettinga *loves* this list!

TruthMonger

At 6:06 PM -0700 10/29/97, Jim Choate wrote:
>>          MAN SPENDS 6 WEEKS IN JAIL AFTER VITAMINS MISTAKEN FOR HEROIN
>>
>>      October 29, 1997
>>      Web posted at: 7:21 p.m. EST (0021 GMT)
>>
>>      NORTH CHARLESTON, South Carolina (AP) -- For six weeks, Malvin
>>      Marshall sat in jail because police thought he was carrying heroin
>>      in his pocket. Police didn't believe him when he said it was mushy
>>      vitamins.
>>
>>      On Monday, the charges were dropped. Lab tests showed he was
>>      carrying mushy vitamins.

And he doesn't stand a chance of suing them successfully.

No wonder some people support Assassination Politics.

(Personally, were I to be arrested and held on such false charges, I'd
consider it necessary to kill those who illegally held me. Preferably from
a safe distance, with a sniper rifle. But then I'm a right wing libertarian
whacko.)

--Tim May

The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography
---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:----
Timothy C. May              | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money,
ComSec 3DES:   408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero
W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA  | knowledge, reputations, information markets,
Higher Power: 2^2,976,221   | black markets, collapse of governments.
"National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

At 9:06 PM -0700 10/30/97, Jonathan Wienke wrote:

>Mrs. Shirley Allen has been captured and is getting her mandatory
>psychiatric exam.  Her family is celebrating, according to ABC news.
>Anyone think she will be declared sane?  If so, I have some excellent
>Florida swampland for sale...  Reality is a symptom of alcohol deficiency!
>
>ObTongueInCheekFearmongeringThought:
>How many Cypherpunks are vulnerable to this "psychiatric imbalance
>allegation" attack?  Tim May is obviously an anti-social survivalist gun
>freak, (like me, but with a bigger ammo stockpile--I'm jealous) Vulis is
>obviously a closet bisexual deviant/pedophile (especially if he posts those
>"Timmy Mayonnaise" ASCII art spams), Bill Geiger is a rabid anti-government
>extremist a la McVeigh, and TruthMonger--need I say more?  It only takes
>one disgruntled relative to "Allen" somebody...which in itself is a
>powerful motivation to engage in anti-social behavior.  Hint: Look up what
>happened to almost everyone who knew Stalin as a child...

Don't any of you get any ideas here, but in California it is ridiculously
easy to get someone committed for a 72-hour observation period. All one has
to do is convince one of the various agencies that a person is a possible
danger to himself or to others.

So, 72 hours playing head games with a shrink doesn't sound so bad, does it?

For starters, expect a regimen of antipsychotic and antidepressant drugs,
sort of a reduced version of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." Then,
expect shrinks who are looking for antisocial behavior, not organic
psychoses.

Worst of all, the mere fact of having been committed, regardless of the
eventual outcome, can mean a complete loss of rights to own a handgun,
rifle, or shotgun for a long period (10 years, I think). Failure to let the
Thought Police in for a look around one's home is almost ipso facto grounds
for committment.

"I'm having fantasies, doctor, about spraying a vanload of shrinks
trespassing on my property."

Enough to get me committed? Go ahead, make my day.

--Tim May

The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography
---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:----
Timothy C. May              | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money,
ComSec 3DES:   408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero
W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA  | knowledge, reputations, information markets,
Higher Power: 2^2,976,221   | black markets, collapse of governments.
"National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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>But then I'm a right wing libertarian whacko.

It's not a matter that you are far right it's just that the rest of the
country are so far left.

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William H. Geiger III deduced:
> In <v03102800b07d83cd05bd@[207.167.93.63]>, on 10/29/97
>    at 05:25 PM, Tim May <tcmay@got.net> said:
> 
> >But then I'm a right wing libertarian whacko.
> 
> It's not a matter that you are far right it's just that the rest of the
> country are so far left.

>From the objective perspective of "the Shadow's nose," one quickly
learns, from a lifetime spent riding the electronic MTA, that:
"The one on the right is in the middle, the one on the left is on
the right..."

...and the guy posting as Anonymous?
He drives a garbage truck...

Man in the Middle