NODE b7e85d99Re: [ZOG] MARXIST COHEN WANTS 'CURTAILED FREEDOM': CALL TO ARMSWANTED
Tim May <tcmay@got.net>Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:15:59 +0800
At 8:20 PM -0700 10/29/97, Igor Chudov @ home wrote:
>* Terrorism is escalating to the point that Americans soon may have to choose
>* between civil liberties and more intrusive means of protection. Defense
>* Secretary William S. Cohen says.
And no doubt this means GMR for all crypto.
And if we say "No thanks" to the no-knock searches, the street friskings,
the "Papierren, bitte??" travel restrictions, what then?
Not much of a choice, eh?
The spinmeisters are laying the groundwork for martial law. Just what we've
been hearing about for years.
Get ready.
--Tim May
The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography
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NODE 98f752c6Re: [ZOG] MARXIST COHEN WANTS 'CURTAILED FREEDOM': CALL TO ARMS WANTED
Lucky Green <shamrock@cypherpunks.to>Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:55:03 +0800
On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, Tim May wrote:
>
> And if we say "No thanks" to the no-knock searches, the street friskings,
> the "Papierren, bitte??" travel restrictions, what then?
>
> Not much of a choice, eh?
No choice at all. My local 7/11 just installed a Verifone Tranz 330 for
the sole purpose of checking the magstripes on the ID's of prospective
alcohol buyers. See, the issue isn't if you are old enough to drink. The
issue is do you have a government license to do so?
Of course the new system will be hacked by enterprising juveniles. Which
will only increase the calls for transponders to be implanted at birth.
-- Lucky Green <shamrock@cypherpunks.to> PGP encrypted email preferred.
"Tonga? Where the hell is Tonga? They have Cypherpunks there?"
NODE f3d8388fTerrorism is a NON-THREAT
"William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@invweb.net>Thu, 30 Oct 1997 20:03:40 +0800
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In <v03102804b07da8389442@[207.167.93.63]>, on 10/29/97
at 08:03 PM, Tim May <tcmay@got.net> said:
>At 8:20 PM -0700 10/29/97, Igor Chudov @ home wrote:
>>* Terrorism is escalating to the point that Americans soon may have to choose
>>* between civil liberties and more intrusive means of protection. Defense
>>* Secretary William S. Cohen says.
>And no doubt this means GMR for all crypto.
>And if we say "No thanks" to the no-knock searches, the street friskings,
>the "Papierren, bitte??" travel restrictions, what then?
>Not much of a choice, eh?
>The spinmeisters are laying the groundwork for martial law. Just what
>we've been hearing about for years.
>Get ready.
Lock-N-Load!!
I wish for once one of the spineless members of the press would ask:
"How many people have died from Terrorism in the last 10yrs?"
Let's be generious and say 10,000 world wide (more like 2,000 but lets not
quibble over numbers).
So we are at 1,000/year world wide. Now only a fraction of those are
actually Americans say 50-100/year.
Now how do they justify the establishment of a police state to save 50-100
lives?!? More Americans die every year from slipping on bars of soap!
Our problem here is not that Assholes are running Washington (Washington
has always been run by assholes) are problem is the Press has turned into
the sphincter of the powers that be.
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