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Secure HTTP servers.

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NODE edfbd687Secure HTTP servers.
Hi all,

I just started working vfor a local ISP and they found out, i was on
this list and knew a little about crypto. Anyway they seem to have the
impression this would qualify me to know something. At any rate, on to
the point of the mail. Could someone point me in the right direction for
info on secure http servers ??  Also maybe info on which is better than
the other ??

Jason
NODE f9894a85Re: Secure HTTP servers.
At 10:27 PM -0700 9/30/97, Jim wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I just started working vfor a local ISP and they found out, i was on
>this list and knew a little about crypto. Anyway they seem to have the
>impression this would qualify me to know something. At any rate, on to
>the point of the mail. Could someone point me in the right direction for
>info on secure http servers ??  Also maybe info on which is better than
>the other ??

Stronghold is available internationally (http://www.c2.net).  Also Netscape
and Microsoft have secure HTTP servers with weak encryption in the export
versions.  I noticed that Lonely Planet in Australia was running Stronghold.


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NODE f81591daRe: Secure HTTP servers.
In iks.lists.cypherpunks, you wrote:
>the point of the mail. Could someone point me in the right direction for
>info on secure http servers ??  Also maybe info on which is better than
>the other ??

Secure HTTP ist the HTTP protocol based on SSL sockets. You may choose any
server you like or which fits your needs (database connections, ...). There
are not so many cryptographic failtures a developer can do. Keep you hands
away from servers only supporting exportable protocols.

Ask you next Certification Authority for help, they must support your server
software. (we do run one ;->)
NODE 2658b6bbRe: Secure HTTP servers.
Lutz Donnerhacke <lutz@iks-jena.de> writes:

> In iks.lists.cypherpunks, you wrote:
> >the point of the mail. Could someone point me in the right direction for
> >info on secure http servers ??  Also maybe info on which is better than
> >the other ??
>
> Secure HTTP ist the HTTP protocol based on SSL sockets. You may choose any
> server you like or which fits your needs (database connections, ...). There
> are not so many cryptographic failtures a developer can do. Keep you hands
> away from servers only supporting exportable protocols.
>
> Ask you next Certification Authority for help, they must support your server
> software. (we do run one ;->)

Are the posters in this thread unwilling to criticize C2Net's StrongHold
because they're afraid to get obnoxious threatening letters from Sameer
Parekh's shysters?

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
NODE 13a2376aRe: Secure HTTP servers.
* Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
>Lutz Donnerhacke <lutz@iks-jena.de> writes:
>> Secure HTTP ist the HTTP protocol based on SSL sockets. You may choose any
>> server you like or which fits your needs (database connections, ...). There
>> are not so many cryptographic failtures a developer can do. Keep you hands
>> away from servers only supporting exportable protocols.

>Are the posters in this thread unwilling to criticize C2Net's StrongHold
>because they're afraid to get obnoxious threatening letters from Sameer
>Parekh's shysters?

Why should we deal with Stronghold while other alteratives work fine?
NODE b16ff39aRe: Secure HTTP servers.
lutz@taranis.iks-jena.de (Lutz Donnerhacke) writes:

> 
> * Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
> >Lutz Donnerhacke <lutz@iks-jena.de> writes:
> >> Secure HTTP ist the HTTP protocol based on SSL sockets. You may choose any
> >> server you like or which fits your needs (database connections, ...). Ther
> >> are not so many cryptographic failtures a developer can do. Keep you hands
> >> away from servers only supporting exportable protocols.
> 
> >Are the posters in this thread unwilling to criticize C2Net's StrongHold
> >because they're afraid to get obnoxious threatening letters from Sameer
> >Parekh's shysters?
> 
> Why should we deal with Stronghold while other alteratives work fine?
> 


Good question, especially when other vendors don't seek to suppress
the discussion of theirt products.

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
NODE bbfd6479Re: Secure HTTP servers.
On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:

> Are the posters in this thread unwilling to criticize C2Net's StrongHold
> because they're afraid to get obnoxious threatening letters from Sameer
> Parekh's shysters?

For what it's worth, we use Stronghold and are very happy with it.
They ship almost all the code, and they provide worthwhile crypto
outside of the States.  Being based on Apache it has a fairly vibrant
development community, so you can obtain modules to do Java servlets,
inline Perl, access to various DBs, and so on, and participate in the
development of those modules.  It's moderately easy to install,
configure, and customize, although you'd probably want a little bit of
Unix sysadmin experience.  I believe an NT port is in alpha.

Criticism?  A few times I've run into SIGSEGV's in the crypto
libraries.  To be fair, the problems are only visible when you plug in
third-party modules, there are workarounds, and they may in fact be
not Stronghold's fault.  Also, their manual seems to have been out of
print for months -- not such a problem because there's an online
version, but still a bit annoying.

UKWeb's technical support are quite good and compare extremely well to
that of some large organizations.

I have no evidence in support or rebuttal of C2Net's alleged
harrassment of Dr Vulis, so I won't comment on that.

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Martin Pool
Pharos
NODE 5e3f7582Re: Secure HTTP servers.
Martin Pool <mbp@pharos.com.au> writes:

> I have no evidence in support or rebuttal of C2Net's alleged
> harrassment of Dr Vulis, so I won't comment on that.

Are you questioning whether I, Tim May, and several other people on this
mailing list were threatened by C2Net';s lawyers?

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps