NODE 3c95b396Re: Terrorism is a NON-THREAT (fwd)
Jim Choate <ravage@ssz.com>Fri, 31 Oct 1997 08:30:41 +0800
Forwarded message:
> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:08:06 -0800
> From: Steve Schear <azur@netcom.com>
> Subject: Re: Terrorism is a NON-THREAT (fwd)
> No amount of deaths are adequate cause for suspending the constitutional
> rights of our citizens. If the Feds can't adequately protect our citizens
> from criminal activities w/o trampling on our rights then its time for us
> to reorganize into different geo-political structures which may.
No, it is time WE take responsibility back for our actions and control our
own lives and quit abrogating it to some asshole who will promise anything
to get us to give them money for nothing (ie taxes).
> Once
> solutions offered from D.C. include suspension of our civil rights its time
> to put allt he options on the table, including considering the abandonment
> of the entire compact.
If we abandon democracy then we are admitting that ALL social systems are a
failure.
Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the
government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with
the government of others? Or have we found angels in the
forms of kings to govern him? Let history answer this
question.
Thomas Jefferson, 1st Inaugural Addr
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NODE e07a75a0democracy?! (Re: Terrorism is a NON-THREAT (fwd))
Adam Back <aba@dcs.ex.ac.uk>Fri, 31 Oct 1997 10:52:52 +0800
Jim Choate <ravage@ssz.com> writes:
> > No amount of deaths are adequate cause for suspending the constitutional
> > rights of our citizens. If the Feds can't adequately protect our citizens
> > from criminal activities w/o trampling on our rights then its time for us
> > to reorganize into different geo-political structures which may.
>
> No, it is time WE take responsibility back for our actions and control our
> own lives and quit abrogating it to some asshole who will promise anything
> to get us to give them money for nothing (ie taxes).
Right on. Worried about childrens security? Protect them yourself,
organise neighborhood watch, arm the little tykes to the teeth, pay
private security firms, whatever.
> > Once
> > solutions offered from D.C. include suspension of our civil rights its time
> > to put allt he options on the table, including considering the abandonment
> > of the entire compact.
>
> If we abandon democracy then we are admitting that ALL social systems are a
> failure.
I fail to see the inference there.
Democracy doesn't work that well. Probably no government at all would
be better.
Let me quote yourself:
> No, it is time WE take responsibility back for our actions and control our
> own lives and quit abrogating it to some asshole who will promise anything
> to get us to give them money for nothing (ie taxes).
Same thing applies to most government functions.
Adam
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