re: Speech as co-conspiring? I don't think so.

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Tim May wrote:
>Since when is broadcasting a radio or television show or writing an
>essay evidence of complicity in a murder, even when it "pushes
>someone over the line"?

The producers of the show had better hope that it is not evidence of
complicity in a murder.

Let's say Tim is crazy.(*)  He told us how much he enjoyed seeing the
BATF agent take one in the face.  If this were to inspire him to try
the same thing in real life, how would the producers of the show be
less guilty than the talk show host?

After all, the most intense and graphic aspect of the episode was the
scene where the BATF agent was killed.  The people who made the show
obviously intended this to have the most impact.  It must be the
actual point of the show.  (It's well known that television watchers
are far more responsive to imagery than boring dialogue.)

The rest was obviously a cynical attempt to undermine the machinery of
justice by appearing to be on the side of law enforcement.  Bad People
try this trick all the time.  Fortunately, the jury usually isn't
fooled.

I'm looking forward to the miscreants getting the justice they so
richly deserve, aren't you?

(*) Tim seems too wiley to be crazy.  Instead, he seems to be playing
The Most Dangerous Game: Fed baiting.

Monty Cantsin
Editor in Chief
Smile Magazine
http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html
http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm

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At 6:10 AM -0700 11/2/97, Mix wrote:

>Tim May wrote:
>>Since when is broadcasting a radio or television show or writing an
>>essay evidence of complicity in a murder, even when it "pushes
>>someone over the line"?
>
>The producers of the show had better hope that it is not evidence of
>complicity in a murder.
>
>Let's say Tim is crazy.(*)  He told us how much he enjoyed seeing the
>BATF agent take one in the face.  If this were to inspire him to try
>the same thing in real life, how would the producers of the show be
>less guilty than the talk show host?

According to the dubious logic of that episode, no doubt they would say
they were innocent because they had not _met_ me on any occasions. If,
however, the prosecution could produce a witness saying she had seen me in
the company of the writer, director, producer, etc., then their bacon would
be cooked. By the logic of their episode, of course.

>
>(*) Tim seems too wiley to be crazy.  Instead, he seems to be playing
>The Most Dangerous Game: Fed baiting.
>

It used to be called "free speech."

Nowadays, admitting that one has guns is fed baiting. Admitting that one
will defend one's self is fed baiting. Admtting that one has read certain
books is fed baiting. And using unbreakable crypto is fed baiting.

Ah, what has the world come to?

--Tim May

The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography
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Mix wrote:

> (*) Tim seems too wiley to be crazy.  Instead, he seems to be playing
> The Most Dangerous Game: Fed baiting.
                           ^^^ (typo)

Could you tell me the best way to kill a policeman, politician, or
world leader, without using a gun? 

Thanks,
  Fred