Gieger dies in poverty...not!

Tim May wrote:
> 
> At 6:54 PM -0700 11/14/97, Anonymous wrote:
> >It is astonishing that people like you and William Geiger, who apparently
> >make their living as consultants, feel so comfortable publicly approving
> >racist comments directed against the Japanese.  Does William expect ever
> >to work with a Japanese customer, after suggesting that Truman should
> >have dropped additional atomic bombs on Japan?
> 
> Their likely clients don't given one whit what comments they may have made
> on mailing lists. Hell, their clients don't even care if they're
> card-carrying members of the KKK.

  Did anyone check out the Heaven's Gate group's computer work? I doubt
that many of their customers would not welcome a chance to have them
back on board. I've worked in plenty of environments where people had
vastly different religious, social, racial and political beliefs, and
most people don't (and shouldn't) give a rat's ass as long as they
pull their weight.
  Of course, if enough people complain and picket, or whatever, then
a 'cult' or a 'racist' or a 'sexist' can become a business liability,
not due to the quality of their work, or their unfitness for the job,
but because of the hateful intolerance of those with the 'right'
beliefs.

  Want to experience hateful intolerance? Read your Bible and believe
that it states the races should remain separate. You will soon be
pointed out as a person who 'hates niggers' and burns crosses on
their lawn, etc, etc, ad infinitum.
  Why? Because those being hatefully intolerant have the 'right'
beliefs as to what the Bible says. 
(Am I a racist if I don't also include an example from the Koran?)

  The fact that different nations, races and idealists are busy 
slaughtering one another during various wars never seems to interfere
with the balance sheets of the movers and shakers in the financial
world. Many of our Presidents since World War II were elected as
a result of the proceeds of their family or friends' ill-gotten
war gains from supporting the war machines that their own children
were fighting against.

  Little BillyG isn't going to go hungry tonight just because he's
snake-bit, onery and mean.

Anonymous <anon@anon.efga.org> writes:

>   Why? Because those being hatefully intolerant have the 'right'
> beliefs as to what the Bible says. 
> (Am I a racist if I don't also include an example from the Koran?)

No, just an illiterate.

--
Prof. Julian Assange  |"Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your
		      | Ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down
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(also bcc'd Philip Stromer in case he cares to comment :-)

>   Did anyone check out the Heaven's Gate group's computer work? I doubt
> that many of their customers would not welcome a chance to have them
> back on board. I've worked in plenty of environments where people had
> vastly different religious, social, racial and political beliefs, and
> most people don't (and shouldn't) give a rat's ass as long as they
> pull their weight.

I generally agree, except that if you're trying to determine in a big hurry if
a potential contractor is worth hiring, and you become aware that s/he exhibits
a trait that you believe is corelated with being a mentally retarded sociopath
(e.g., is a Klintonista or (a guy) wears a pair of earrings to an interview),
then you should proceed to the next candidate.

>   Of course, if enough people complain and picket, or whatever, then
> a 'cult' or a 'racist' or a 'sexist' can become a business liability,
> not due to the quality of their work, or their unfitness for the job,
> but because of the hateful intolerance of those with the 'right'
> beliefs.

But then some of the other folks working there will likely start looking for
other jobs... and it's damn hard to find good people, be it in NYC or in the
Silicon Valley - harder than to find a job. :-)

Ever since Sun Micro fired Philip Stromer for posting "homophobic" jokes to
Usenet, I've done what I could to hurt their sales. I estimate the value of
sales where Sun boxes were considered, I asked that no Suns be bought, and
other boxes (HPs etc) were purchased, to be about $60MM. (Of course, my inputs
were almost never pivotal, but I made my opinion known.) I also boycott
their software.

It's a pity Whit Diffie works for a company that fires people for posting
"homophobic" jokes to Usenet.