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Re: Tim May's offensive racism (was: about RC4)

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NODE b6c49510Re: Tim May's offensive racism (was: about RC4)
Joichi Ito, <jito@eccosys.com>, writes:
> And not all Japanese are racist pigs. And before you flank me,
> I take back my previous remark where I insinuated that Americans
> were racist. Not all Americans are racists. Just the stupid ones are.

This is not true.  Tim May is not stupid.  He is insensitive and bigoted,
violent and dangerous.

He is certainly a racist, and believes in the superiority of the white race.

But he is not stupid.
NODE 40b54174Re: Tim May's offensive racism (was: about RC4)
At 8:45 PM -0700 11/14/97, Anonymous wrote:
>Joichi Ito, <jito@eccosys.com>, writes:
>> And not all Japanese are racist pigs. And before you flank me,
>> I take back my previous remark where I insinuated that Americans
>> were racist. Not all Americans are racists. Just the stupid ones are.
>
>This is not true.  Tim May is not stupid.  He is insensitive and bigoted,
>violent and dangerous.
>
>He is certainly a racist, and believes in the superiority of the white race.
>
>But he is not stupid.

Interestingly, I don't even believe there is such a thing as "the white
race." The 19th century classification of homo sapiens into Negroid,
Caucasoid, and Mongoloid, the putative "three races," is without merit.

Based on certain external characteristics, there are at least a dozen
"races." And the concept is largely meaningless. Italians are as "far" from
Swedes as, say, Thais are from Han Chinese. The point being....

The point being  I don't care what race a person is officially classed as
(and yet I had to racially classify job applicants when I was at Intel,
courtesy of the EEOC rules on quotas).

I call a spade a spade.

--Tim May



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NODE 7b6db56cWhat Joichi *meant* to say was...
Joichi Ito, <jito@eccosys.com>, writes:
> And not all Japanese are racist pigs. And before you flank me,
> I take back my previous remark where I insinuated that Americans
> were racist. Not all Americans are racists. Just the stupid ones are.

  Jesus! Is *everyone* working for the fucking CDT spin-doctors, now?

  "I take back my remark where I insinuated that Japs are slant-eyed
gooks who smell bad, so I'm not *really* a racist...
  "And by this time tomorrow, I will *never* have said it at all."

  I wouldn't be so quick to call all racists stupid...remember, we
can't be sure that was really Hitler's body they found, and people
who set out to conquer the world don't usually take kindly to being
called stupid.

  Is it National Paint With A Wide Brush Day?
  Did I miss the announcement? 
  If all racists are stupid, are all liberals queer? Are we still 
working that old, tired game?

  Is it my imagination, or is the rapid decline of the quality of posts
to the list in the last few days a direct result of the ignorant and
emotional posts by those complaining about the decline in the quality
of the posts to the list?
  Can you say, "Self-fulfilling prophecy?"...sure, you can...

TruthMonger
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NODE 846252d0Re: What Joichi *meant* to say was...
At 04:05 97/11/15 -0600, TruthMonger wrote:
> Joichi Ito, <jito@eccosys.com>, writes:

>   I wouldn't be so quick to call all racists stupid...remember, we
> can't be sure that was really Hitler's body they found, and people
> who set out to conquer the world don't usually take kindly to being
> called stupid.

>   Is it National Paint With A Wide Brush Day?
>   Did I miss the announcement? 
>   If all racists are stupid, are all liberals queer? Are we still 
> working that old, tired game?
> 
OK. You're right. As several people have pointed out, not all racists
are stupid and not all stupid people are racists. I also agree that
Tim is non-stupid racist. (One of the worst kind.)

>   Is it my imagination, or is the rapid decline of the quality of posts
> to the list in the last few days a direct result of the ignorant and
> emotional posts by those complaining about the decline in the quality
> of the posts to the list?
>   Can you say, "Self-fulfilling prophecy?"...sure, you can...

I'm wouldn't call the recent posts ignorant, but I agree that the
I don't have much more to say about all of this so I'll shut up
until someone attacks me.

 - Joi

P.S. If the only thing Platypus has to make fun of me for is my
English ability, I'm flattered. ;-P

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