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On Sun, 14 Dec 1997 at 08:12:31 -0600 Human Gus-Peter wrote: > The government misuses my Social Security Number to steal > my money. Where do I press charges? Can I place airline > employees under citizen's arrest when they demand it? Excuse ME? When did THIS begin?
On Sun, 14 Dec 1997 at 08:12:31 -0600 Human Gus-Peter wrote: > The government misuses my Social Security Number to steal > my money. Where do I press charges? Can I place airline > employees under citizen's arrest when they demand it? Excuse ME? When did THIS begin? No shit. It is right on my Social Security card, ' Not for Identification'.
At 9:55 PM -0700 12/14/97, Bill Stewart wrote: >The only people you can press charges on are government employees >asking you for SSN information in ways that violate the >Privacy Act of 197x, which has been amended several times to >water it down, and while the employees can theoretically be >fined for violating it, your chances of collecting are near zero. The driver's license cops won't issue a license without a SSN. The bank won't do business without someone with an SSN. Even my gun range wants my SSN. But I have a new SSN to give them: 539-60-5125 Of course, don't try this at home. SSN fraud may land you in prison for a year, while murderers get seven months in prison. And while double murderers have to sell their houses in Brentwood. Only in Amerika, where the lunatics run the asylum. --Tim May The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^2,976,221 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
At 06:38 PM 12/14/1997 -0600, sphantom wrote: >> The government misuses my Social Security Number to steal >> my money. Where do I press charges? Can I place airline >> employees under citizen's arrest when they demand it? > >Excuse ME? When did THIS begin? > >No shit. It is right on my Social Security card, > ' Not for Identification'. That doesn't mean "Nobody's allowed to use this for identification." It means "The Social Security Administration doesn't claim that this card is useful for identification so don't blame them if the person using it isn't who the card says they are." The only people you can press charges on are government employees asking you for SSN information in ways that violate the Privacy Act of 197x, which has been amended several times to water it down, and while the employees can theoretically be fined for violating it, your chances of collecting are near zero. Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart@pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639