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Re: Pasting in From:

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NODE 5e183a06Re: Pasting in From:
>> : So, I propose a compromise: What if I enable pasting of From:,
>> : but if a From: header is pasted in, a short disclaimer is a
>> : added to the beginning of the body of the message.
>> : Would that mess anyone up? I think this would be
>> : sufficient to avoid most problems with "forging".

News and email are two separate cases.  For news, there's almost no reason
for a poster who wants his real name and address in a message to use
an anonymous remailer; maybe something like posting with your Juno email
on the message rather than your work email.  But you can put your
real email address in the message body if you want to do that,
so not having that feature in a remailer is no restriction on 
the legitimate user.  There are lots of reasons to forge someone else's name :-)
So if the remailers don't support From: pasting, it's no loss.
Similarly, for Reply-To: and Sender: and Path: and Received:
and maybe a few other occasionally-forged header fields.

Adding a disclaimer to the beginning of the message is no problem;
adding it to the headers is useless, since almost nobody reads them,
especially the kind of shoot-from-the-hip flamers you want to avoid.

For email, perhaps you don't want the address to be visible during
the first few hops in an encrypted remailer path, but you do still 
want one of your addresses to be there for the recipient.
Again, you can put it in the message body yourself.
There's a little less risk of pasting in headers on mail to individuals,
but forged mail to mailing lists and mail2news relays is still a problem,
and you definitely can't expect remailers to recognize mailing lists.
There are also minor problems, like forging the From: address on mail
to president@whitehouse.gov, which are better avoided this way
even if you do also add disclaimers.

				Thanks! 
					Bill
Bill Stewart, stewarts@ix.netcom.com
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NODE 945a1f45Re: Pasting in From:
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On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Bill Stewart wrote:

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> So if the remailers don't support From: pasting, it's no loss.
> Similarly, for Reply-To: and Sender: and Path: and Received:
> and maybe a few other occasionally-forged header fields.

There is a good reson to allow peaple to stick there a 'Reply-To:' in.
This permits replies to be directed to some sort of anon post office box
or other such mechanisum.

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NODE f3a84da5Re: Pasting in From:
? the Platypus {aka David Formosa} <dformosa@st.nepean.uws.edu.au> writes:

> > So if the remailers don't support From: pasting, it's no loss.
> > Similarly, for Reply-To: and Sender: and Path: and Received:
> > and maybe a few other occasionally-forged header fields.
>
> There is a good reson to allow peaple to stick there a 'Reply-To:' in.
> This permits replies to be directed to some sort of anon post office box
> or other such mechanisum.

Just a thought: suppose "reply-to" points to a nym listed on a key server and
the entire article is signed with a key for that nym?

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