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I tried sending an anonymous test article to comp.org.cauce via the CRACKER
remailer.  Sure enough, the Gypsie Jew Zorch forged a cancel for my article:

>From: scott@zorch.sf-bay.org (Scott Hazen Mueller)
>Newsgroups: comp.org.cauce
>Subject: cancelled posting
>Date: 30 Dec 1997 13:25:04 -0500
>Organization: At Home; Salida, CA
>Lines: 26
>Sender: johnl@iecc.com
>Approved: comp.org.cauce@abuse.net
>Message-ID: <EM0LFH.Bn3@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG>
>Reply-To: scott@zorch.sf-bay.org
>NNTP-Posting-Host: ivan.iecc.com
>X-submission-address: comp-org-cauce@abuse.net
>X-Authentication-Warning: orbit.hooked.net: Uzorch set sender to news@zorch.sf-bay.org using -f
>X-Nntp-Posting-Host: localhost.sf-bay.org
>Path: ...!iecc.com!iecc.com!not-for-mail
>
>I have issued a cancel for the following posting to comp.org.cauce.  Death
>threats are serious business.
>
>Xref: zorch comp.org.cauce:378
>Path: zorch!news.well.com!noos.hooked.net!204.156.128.20.MISMATCH!news1.best.com
>!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-i
>n-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!205.238.207.65!iecc.com!iecc.co
>m!not-for-mail
>From: Anonymous <anon@anon.efga.org>
>Newsgroups: comp.org.cauce
>Subject: CAUCE offers a $50,000 (canadian) reward for killing Chris Lewis, his w
>ife, and the kid
>Date: 30 Dec 1997 10:58:17 -0500
>Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY
>Lines: 14
>Sender: johnl@iecc.com
>Approved: comp.org.cauce@abuse.net
>Message-ID: <b8d6450efb8581fa6190e92216c92e16@anon.efga.org>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: ivan.iecc.com
>X-submission-address: comp-org-cauce@abuse.net
>Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above.
>        It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software.
>        Please report problems or inappropriate use to the
>        remailer administrator at <admin@anon.efga.org>.

My cancelled Usenet article offered a reward for killing the spammer:

>CAUCE, the enforcement branch of the Internet administration, is dedicated to
>exterminating all SPAMMERS by any means necessary. CAUCE wants Chris Lewis and
>all other SPAMMERS dead, and will gladly pay the $50,000 (canadian) reward to
>whomever KILLS Chris Lewis and his family, who reside in a suburb of Ottawa:
>
>483 Vances Side Road
>Dunrobin, Ontario K0A 1T0
>CANADA
>Home telephone: (613) 832-0541,
>Office telephone: (613) 763-2935
>
>After you kill Chris Lewis and his family, please see http://www.cauce.org
>for information on how to collect your CAUCE reward.

This is fucking censorship!  I'm putting the notice of the CAUCE reward on my
web home page at http://www.panix.com/~guy, right next to the pictures of the
pre-teen kids screwing.  Fuck you, Zorch, you're next after C, P, and G Lewis.

---guy

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[snip]

>My cancelled Usenet article offered a reward for killing the spammer:

[snip]

>This is fucking censorship!  I'm putting the notice of the CAUCE reward on my
>web home page at [snip], right next to the pictures of the
>pre-teen kids screwing.  Fuck you, Zorch, you're next after C, P, and G Lewis.

Ok, tell you what.

Let's post YOUR address, YOUR phone number, and that of YOUR family.
We'll post that information to every newsgroup and mailing list we
can think of.  We'll offer a $50,000 AMERICAN reward for the quick
extermination of you and your family.  And if some kook takes us up
on it, we might even be good enough to warn you.

It's not censorship, you idiot.  The dude who clipped out your post
was trying to keep some fucking psycho from killing somebody else for
some imagined (or not, who knows?) $50k reward.

It's common sense, in other words.

Best wishes and fresh-roasted peanut taste,
The Sheriff. -- ***<REPLY TO: sheriff@speakeasy.org>***
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As kinky as it sounds, finger me to see my PGP key and
confirm the signature attached to this message.  Either
that, or head for pgp.ai.mit.edu on the WWW and search
for my e-mail address.
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Any and all SPAM will be met with immediate prosecutory
efforts.  Solicitations are NOT welcome here!
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Version: 160 (IQ)
Comments: Definitely one of their greatest misses.

Reporter: "Do you know what Public Enemy is?"
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          [long pause]
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On Wed, 31 Dec 1997, The Sheriff wrote:

> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 13:19:58 -0400
> From: The Sheriff <sheriff@speakeasy.org>
> To: cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: Re: [Anon newsgroup posting "censorship"]
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >My cancelled Usenet article offered a reward for killing the spammer:
[...]
> It's not censorship, you idiot.  The dude who clipped out your post
> was trying to keep some fucking psycho from killing somebody else for
> some imagined (or not, who knows?) $50k reward.
> 
> It's common sense, in other words.

Not realy,

Post it to one unnmoderated newsgroup      Canceling it would be rouge
Post it to one moderated newsgroup         Moderator may cancel it
Post it to more then 20 newsgroups         Anyone can cancel it as spam

The post was canceled because the moderator can canel anything in there
newsgroup.  It is censorship, but by posting to a moderated newsgroup you
are concenting to that censorship.

- -- 
Please excuse my spelling as I suffer from agraphia see the url in my header. 
Never trust a country with more peaple then sheep.  ex-net.scum and proud
You Say To People "Throw Off Your Chains" And They Make New Chains For
Themselves? --Terry Pratchett.

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At 1:19 PM -0400 12/31/97, The Sheriff wrote:
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>
>[snip]
>
>>My cancelled Usenet article offered a reward for killing the spammer:
>
>[snip]
>
>>This is fucking censorship!  I'm putting the notice of the CAUCE reward on my
>>web home page at [snip], right next to the pictures of the
>>pre-teen kids screwing.  Fuck you, Zorch, you're next after C, P, and G Lewis.
>
>Ok, tell you what.
>
>Let's post YOUR address, YOUR phone number, and that of YOUR family.
>We'll post that information to every newsgroup and mailing list we
>can think of.  We'll offer a $50,000 AMERICAN reward for the quick
>extermination of you and your family.  And if some kook takes us up
>on it, we might even be good enough to warn you.
>
>It's not censorship, you idiot.  The dude who clipped out your post
>was trying to keep some fucking psycho from killing somebody else for
>some imagined (or not, who knows?) $50k reward.
>
>It's common sense, in other words.

Here, here.  Making threatening statements or calling for someone's harm are not to be tolerated.  However, predicting someone's continued good health (as a psychic) and wagering on that prediction against other (psychics) who have different predictions is a contest of skill and not a threat or illegal in any way, even if these wagers, psychics and payouts are anonymous.

--Steve

Anonymous wrote:
> 
> I tried sending an anonymous test article to comp.org.cauce via the CRACKER
> remailer.  Sure enough, the Gypsie Jew Zorch forged a cancel for my article:
> 
> >From: scott@zorch.sf-bay.org (Scott Hazen Mueller)
> >Newsgroups: comp.org.cauce
> >Subject: cancelled posting
> >Date: 30 Dec 1997 13:25:04 -0500
> >Organization: At Home; Salida, CA
> >Lines: 26
> >Sender: johnl@iecc.com
> >Approved: comp.org.cauce@abuse.net
> >Message-ID: <EM0LFH.Bn3@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG>
> >Reply-To: scott@zorch.sf-bay.org
> >NNTP-Posting-Host: ivan.iecc.com
> >X-submission-address: comp-org-cauce@abuse.net
> >X-Authentication-Warning: orbit.hooked.net: Uzorch set sender to news@zorch.sf-bay.org using -f
> >X-Nntp-Posting-Host: localhost.sf-bay.org
> >Path: ...!iecc.com!iecc.com!not-for-mail
> >
> >I have issued a cancel for the following posting to comp.org.cauce.  Death
> >threats are serious business.
> >
> >Xref: zorch comp.org.cauce:378
> >Path: zorch!news.well.com!noos.hooked.net!204.156.128.20.MISMATCH!news1.best.com
> >!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-i
> >n-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!205.238.207.65!iecc.com!iecc.co
> >m!not-for-mail
> >From: Anonymous <anon@anon.efga.org>
> >Newsgroups: comp.org.cauce
> >Subject: CAUCE offers a $50,000 (canadian) reward for killing Chris Lewis, his w
> >ife, and the kid
> >Date: 30 Dec 1997 10:58:17 -0500
> >Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY
> >Lines: 14
> >Sender: johnl@iecc.com
> >Approved: comp.org.cauce@abuse.net
> >Message-ID: <b8d6450efb8581fa6190e92216c92e16@anon.efga.org>
> >NNTP-Posting-Host: ivan.iecc.com
> >X-submission-address: comp-org-cauce@abuse.net
> >Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above.
> >        It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software.
> >        Please report problems or inappropriate use to the
> >        remailer administrator at <admin@anon.efga.org>.
> 
> My cancelled Usenet article offered a reward for killing the spammer:
> 
> >CAUCE, the enforcement branch of the Internet administration, is dedicated to
> >exterminating all SPAMMERS by any means necessary. CAUCE wants Chris Lewis and
> >all other SPAMMERS dead, and will gladly pay the $50,000 (canadian) reward to
> >whomever KILLS Chris Lewis and his family, who reside in a suburb of Ottawa:
> >

I think we should leave the family out of this, and instead killing
Chris Lewis, just get him fired from Nortel


> >483 Vances Side Road
> >Dunrobin, Ontario K0A 1T0
> >CANADA
> >Home telephone: (613) 832-0541,
> >Office telephone: (613) 763-2935
> >
> >After you kill Chris Lewis and his family, please see http://www.cauce.org
> >for information on how to collect your CAUCE reward.
> 
> This is fucking censorship!  I'm putting the notice of the CAUCE reward on my
> web home page at http://www.panix.com/~guy, right next to the pictures of the
> pre-teen kids screwing.  Fuck you, Zorch, you're next after C, P, and G Lewis.
> 
> ---guy

Just6 who is this "guy?"

Let us concentrate on getting Lewis fired
rather than killing him.  Killing Nortel
would be a much better idea.

On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Dr. Zeus wrote:

> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 03:05:56 -0500
> From: "Dr. Zeus" <zeus@alt.net>
> To: freedom-knights@jetcafe.org
> Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com, usenet@pgh.org
> Subject: Chris Lewis's death?
> 
> Anonymous wrote:
> > 
> > I tried sending an anonymous test article to comp.org.cauce via the CRACKER
> > remailer.  Sure enough, the Gypsie Jew Zorch forged a cancel for my article:
> > 
> > >From: scott@zorch.sf-bay.org (Scott Hazen Mueller)
> > >Newsgroups: comp.org.cauce
> > >Subject: cancelled posting
> > >Date: 30 Dec 1997 13:25:04 -0500
> > >Organization: At Home; Salida, CA
> > >Lines: 26
> > >Sender: johnl@iecc.com
> > >Approved: comp.org.cauce@abuse.net
> > >Message-ID: <EM0LFH.Bn3@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG>
> > >Reply-To: scott@zorch.sf-bay.org
> > >NNTP-Posting-Host: ivan.iecc.com
> > >X-submission-address: comp-org-cauce@abuse.net
> > >X-Authentication-Warning: orbit.hooked.net: Uzorch set sender to news@zorch.sf-bay.org using -f
> > >X-Nntp-Posting-Host: localhost.sf-bay.org
> > >Path: ...!iecc.com!iecc.com!not-for-mail
> > >
> > >I have issued a cancel for the following posting to comp.org.cauce.  Death
> > >threats are serious business.
> > >
> > >Xref: zorch comp.org.cauce:378
> > >Path: zorch!news.well.com!noos.hooked.net!204.156.128.20.MISMATCH!news1.best.com
> > >!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-i
> > >n-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!205.238.207.65!iecc.com!iecc.co
> > >m!not-for-mail
> > >From: Anonymous <anon@anon.efga.org>
> > >Newsgroups: comp.org.cauce
> > >Subject: CAUCE offers a $50,000 (canadian) reward for killing Chris Lewis, his w
> > >ife, and the kid
> > >Date: 30 Dec 1997 10:58:17 -0500
> > >Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY
> > >Lines: 14
> > >Sender: johnl@iecc.com
> > >Approved: comp.org.cauce@abuse.net
> > >Message-ID: <b8d6450efb8581fa6190e92216c92e16@anon.efga.org>
> > >NNTP-Posting-Host: ivan.iecc.com
> > >X-submission-address: comp-org-cauce@abuse.net
> > >Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above.
> > >        It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software.
> > >        Please report problems or inappropriate use to the
> > >        remailer administrator at <admin@anon.efga.org>.
> > 
> > My cancelled Usenet article offered a reward for killing the spammer:
> > 
> > >CAUCE, the enforcement branch of the Internet administration, is dedicated to
> > >exterminating all SPAMMERS by any means necessary. CAUCE wants Chris Lewis and
> > >all other SPAMMERS dead, and will gladly pay the $50,000 (canadian) reward to
> > >whomever KILLS Chris Lewis and his family, who reside in a suburb of Ottawa:
> > >
> 
> I think we should leave the family out of this, and instead killing
> Chris Lewis, just get him fired from Nortel
> 
> 
> > >483 Vances Side Road
> > >Dunrobin, Ontario K0A 1T0
> > >CANADA
> > >Home telephone: (613) 832-0541,
> > >Office telephone: (613) 763-2935
> > >
> > >After you kill Chris Lewis and his family, please see http://www.cauce.org
> > >for information on how to collect your CAUCE reward.
> > 
> > This is fucking censorship!  I'm putting the notice of the CAUCE reward on my
> > web home page at http://www.panix.com/~guy, right next to the pictures of the
> > pre-teen kids screwing.  Fuck you, Zorch, you're next after C, P, and G Lewis.
> > 
> > ---guy
> 
> Just6 who is this "guy?"
>