NODE ba4ba0f5Big Brother Is Watching ATMs
Jonathan Wienke <JonWienk@ix.netcom.com>Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:45:20 +0800
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I just heard that a bank card company has just released a program for using
photos of the iris in people's eyes as a biometric ID to replace people's
PIN codes for ATM / credit cards. What I found really interesting is how
they plan to implement it. As people use the ATM, they are photographed.
(Every ATM has a security camera.) Over time, as people use the ATM, the
security camera images are composited to produce a high-quality image of
their irises, which is coded and placed in their account information. Once
this is accomplished, when a card is inserted into the ATM and the security
camera gets an iris image that matches the account sufficiently closely,
the user can conduct transactions without entering the PIN code. People
affected by this will merely receive a letter that under certain
circumstances, entering the PIN is no longer necessary, but this is not a
security problem.
This scenario may not be a security problem, but it certainly poses a
privacy problem. Given the frequency that the average Joe Sixpack uses the
ATM, it is only a matter of time before the government mandates a
nationwide eyeprint ID database to catch ATM and credit card theives, money
launderers, tax cheats, and other undesirables. Perhaps the eyeprint could
even replace or supplement the SSN as the unique taxpayer ID key for tax
and other purposes. Of course, given the fact that ATMs have had cameras
from the start, this theoretical eyeprint database could already be under
construction. How's that for paranoia? >:-(
Of course, there are a few ways to beat this, such as mirror sunglasses,
(which would only be useful while alternative credentials to eyeprint ID
are still available) and contact lenses, (which would have to be carefully
oriented so that the same side of the lens was always up, or the fact that
you are wearing contacts and are therefore a Suspicious Person(tm) would
become obvious to the system) and of course intraocular implants of various
types. Of course if the implant's power-on LED gives your eyes a constant
Satanic red glow, you may be flagged as a Suspicious Person(tm) anyway.
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NODE 3a1a85b4Re: Big Brother Is Watching ATMs
Vin McLellan <vin@shore.net>Tue, 2 Dec 1997 00:28:02 +0800
G'day Jonathan,
Could you please identify this "bank card company" by name, card,
nation, etc. ?
Without some explicit cite of a commercial entity -- or a reference
to some "strip-'em-naked-with-electrons" Police R&D group like the guys at
Rome AFB -- this report sounds like another of those ID-Implant fantasies
circulated by the guys who are bolting steel plate to their screen doors
and programming their backyard AA to auto-target (a) Black Helicopters (b)
which are on low-level rapid approach (c) full Oriental, Arab, and Hispanic
troopers (c) wearing Blue Helmets.
Got a single verifiable fact you could share?
Or, with further checking, could you confirm that is this just
another spicy rumor crafted to keep the boyos in the hills rubbing garlic
into their hollow-points with proper militia enthusiasm? (Not that I don't
enjoy a good tale to wake up sleepy Computer Science undergrads, mind
you...)
Up the Revolution,
_Vin
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>I just heard that a bank card company has just released a program for using
>photos of the iris in people's eyes as a biometric ID to replace people's
>PIN codes for ATM / credit cards. What I found really interesting is how
>they plan to implement it. As people use the ATM, they are photographed.
>(Every ATM has a security camera.) Over time, as people use the ATM, the
>security camera images are composited to produce a high-quality image of
>their irises, which is coded and placed in their account information.
Vin McLellan + The Privacy Guild + <vin@shore.net>
53 Nichols St., Chelsea, MA 02150 USA <617> 884-5548
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NODE 00d4f8bdRe: Big Brother Is Watching ATMs
Paul Pomes <ppomes@Qualcomm.com>Tue, 2 Dec 1997 04:07:43 +0800
At 10:50 EST on Monday, December 1, 1997, Vin McLellan wrote:
|G'day Jonathan,
|
| Could you please identify this "bank card company" by name, card,
|nation, etc. ?
You *could* read the newspaper...
/pbp
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Body Parts May Become a Way To Identify ATM Customers
By GORDON FAIRCLOUGH
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
Thomas J. Drury walks up to the automated-teller machine in his suburban
office and swipes his bank card. Instead of punching in a secret code,
however, he stares straight ahead. The machine verifies his identity by
looking at his eyes.
If Mr. Drury, chief executive officer of Sensar Corp., and his colleagues
have their way, this eye-scanning technology will become standard equipment
on ATMs around the world. It is being tested by NCR Corp. and Citicorp,
among others.
[...]
NODE 654df299Re: Big Brother Is Watching ATMs
Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com>Tue, 2 Dec 1997 08:56:52 +0800
On Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 05:07:11PM -0500, Robert A. Costner wrote:
[...]
>
> As wonderful as eye scanning technology may sound, it promises to offer
> very weak identification and only be reliable in the short run. This is
> based on the premise that a reproduction of an eye will work as well. Just
> as a reproduction of a driver's license seems to work for check forgery.
>
> PINs offer security based on the fact that they are a secret. Not a shared
> secret. For comparison, take a look at the authentication procedure of the
> SSA and Wells Fargo bank. Over the internet, both want
>
> Social Security Number
> Date of Birth
> Mother's Maiden Name
>
> Imagine a bank machine requesting the same info as the only prerequisite
> for dispensing cash! This info might have been a method of secure
> authentication about the time I was born, but today, such info is almost
> common knowledge. This no longer is a secret, too many people have the
> info. Widespread use of eye scanners will provide the same results. As
> databases are built, and sold, the raw info becomes available and automated
> tellers become excellent targets for fake authentications. If you get it
> wrong, you just walk away.
>
> Eye scans may help aid authentication, but they should not take the place
> of PINs.
>From "Government Computer News", 1997-11-24
Optical character recognition converts an image into usable text.
But what if the character you want to recognize is a human being?
Try Visionics Corp's FaceIt PC 3.0, which works with a digital
video camera to secure a desktop computer against intruders.
The GCN Lab staff members were skeptical at first. After all, OCR
and voice recognition are still not mature technologies, and face
recognition applications are greener still.
FaceIt surprised us -- pleasantly.
[description of test environment, and test]
The software can be set to require a smile or blink from any person
attempting access...[I suppose you could stick out your tongue...]
...During testing, the software never misidentified anyone, nor was
it fooled if a user wore or removed glasses. Visionics claims that
changes in facial hair will not cause misidentification, but we
didn't test that claim.
http://www.FaceIt.com
--
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NODE cf7edc9eRe: Big Brother Is Watching ATMs
Vin McLellan <vin@shore.net>Wed, 3 Dec 1997 03:10:47 +0800
Robert A. Costner <pooh@efga.org> wrote:
>As wonderful as eye scanning technology may sound, it promises to offer
>very weak identification and only be reliable in the short run. This is
>based on the premise that a reproduction of an eye will work as well. Just
>as a reproduction of a driver's license seems to work for check forgery.
With respect, I disagree. I think it is quite likely that an
iris-scan technology can effectively differentiate between a living eye and
a reproduction (or, as one of my many correspondents on this topic
suggested, an eye forcibly removed from the socket of a potential fraud
victim.) In any case, the issue of false positives/negatives will be
settled with evidence. I think the technology will probably be useful, in
those terms.
My concern is rather with who owns and controls the scan data from
an individual's own eye: whoever scans him or her? Scans at a distance?
Surreptitiously? Whatever entity claims the right to validate or
authenticate the individual's identity, for his or her own good? for the
public good?
If the value of eye-scanning (or any other type of biometric
authentication) is to be short-lived, it will be because the scan-data
itself will be poorly held, or transferred insecurely.
While it may be difficult or impossible to fake out the camera with
a phony eyeball, it will _certainly_ be possible to inject a copy of the
proper scan-data somewhere into the linkage between the camera lens and
probably remote authentication server which will support it.
The inherent weakness of biometric identifiers is that, if (or
when) there is a breach in the authentication system (or the access
controls or crypto system which secures the database which supports it,) it
will be impossible to correct the situation (as we might issue a new ATM
card or smartcard, or a new SecurID, or change a user's password.)
The real victim of a poorly-designed authentication system which
uses biometrics will be the citizen/consumer who trusted his (irreplacable,
being often single and unique) biometric scan to an entity which handled it
with improper care and precautions.
My sarcastic reaction to Jonathan's initial post was in reaction to
his report that some commercial banking organization was planning to
surreptitiously collect these iris scans and use them to replace
user-memorized PINs for validating cash disbursements. (Jon tells me that
he originally heard this version on AM radio is San Francisco: the Barbara
Simpson show, KSFO 560AM, which he has found an often-reliable source.)
I still consider this unlikely -- if for no other reason than the
fact that banking regulators (i.e., insurers) would never allow it.
There is, of course, a whole set of political and sociological
issues which revolve around the rough equivalence of effective biometric
system, and the database which will give it value, and the traditionally
feared "national ID" paper-document system. Jonathan's initial post
validly raised that fear.
There is also an important public-policy discussion in the question
of whether the commercial value of such a system (and its database) to
consumers will again tempt the mass of (US) citizens into voluntarily
giving up control over this authentication technology (for easy credit or
faster and bigger ATM withdrawals) to business... for the government to
later take advantage of as it will, when this aspect of our privacy is just
another commodity.
[Much of American privacy has already been traded off by our
citizens in a similar fashion. Europe, where privacy was redefined when
governments extended citizen property rights to include information about
that citizen, presents a different model. With some problems, which
Libertarians are prone to stress;-) and some valuable protections.]
(Did anyone note the European Commission's denunciation of US
crypto policy specifically noted that forcing European citizens to include
a message-recovery mechanism for government eavesdropping in their legal
e-mail or other electronic message systems would probably be a violation of
privacy rights commonly held by all citizens of the European Union?)
Biometrics (something you are) is one of the three classic
mechanisms by which we convince a computer that we are indeed someone whose
identity was previously registered with the computer: something one knows
(password, PIN,) something one has (token, smartcard, ATM card,) or
something one is (the biometric.)
Biometric identifiers, because they are static -- and thus,
inherently subject to replay attacks from _somewhere_ in their process or
procedures -- will likely always require confirmation from other
authenticators. Certainly they will require a secondary confirmation
before they are used to validate an active transfer of value like an ATM's
disbursement of cash. (The lawyers and auditors will demand it.)
I actually expect that the current standard for "strong
authentication" in business practice -- "two factors;" typically a password
and a token/card (often enhanced with a one-time password generator, which
provides proof that the token is in the users hand at the moment the
authentication code is generated) -- will soon be expanded to three.
It is far more likely that auditors in the future will define
"strong authentication" systems as requiring (1) a user-memorized PIN, (2)
a token, and (3) a biometric, than that they will do away with the
requirement for either the PIN or the token.
Tokens (by classical definition, personal and mobile, usually
pocketable) are becoming personal repositories for encryption and digital
signature keys, eventually secure crypto-engines, so these hand-held
authenticators will likely become even more valuable.
And a PIN or password will, at the very least, still be required to
secure the smartcard's internal data so that the crown jewels are not
readily available to every pickpocket.
The interesting question is what sort of controls will be placed
(probably by legislation) on second or third party access or traffic in
consumers'/citizens' biometric data. It may be that all parties (citizens,
government, business) will have a common interest in holding systems which
capture or store these data-files to a very high infosec or crypto standard
in order to keep biometric files from falling into the realm of meaningless
index data (like Bob's example of the US social security number.)
The use of biometrics as an authenticator will have commercial
value -- to the citizen/consumer and to commercial entities -- only if the
biometric scan-data is handled securely and respectfully.
The use of biometrics as an administrative tool is probably
inevitable -- something we already see with photographs and fingerprints
(which are, of course, also biometrics.) And as machines are better
adapted to scan for fingerprints, or faces and irises (remotely, as in an
airline terminal, bank lobby, or street corner?) -- and then to search,
match, identify and log the presence of these consumers/citizens at this or
that place -- our culture will inevitably get more constipated and the
freedom of our anonymity will be cramped (albiet, a protected place may be
"safer," as some will argue.)
Hey, no one said the future was going to be easier to live than the
past;-) This record-keeping has been an obsession of modern governments
since the French Revolution, and only if we keep explaining and making the
impact of the technology a political issue -- as in the way
computer-monitoring can cut the cost of a $70,000 typical wiretap to a few
dollars, vastly increasing the capability of government to listen to more,
quite cheaply -- can citizens grasp what is at stake and strive to defend
themselves and the next generation.
Random thoughts, shared for comment.
Suerte,
_Vin
"Cryptography is like literacy in the Dark Ages. Infinitely potent, for
good and ill... yet basically an intellectual construct, an idea, which by
its nature will resist efforts to restrict it to bureaucrats and others who
deem only themselves worthy of such Privilege."
_ A thinking man's Creed for Crypto/ vbm.
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NODE e4cc0f0cRe: Big Brother Is Watching ATMs
Lucky Green <shamrock@cypherpunks.to>Tue, 2 Dec 1997 05:27:20 +0800
On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Vin McLellan wrote:
> G'day Jonathan,
>
> Could you please identify this "bank card company" by name, card,
> nation, etc. ?
>
> Without some explicit cite of a commercial entity -- or a reference
> to some "strip-'em-naked-with-electrons" Police R&D group like the guys at
> Rome AFB -- this report sounds like another of those ID-Implant fantasies
> circulated by the guys who are bolting steel plate to their screen doors
> and programming their backyard AA to auto-target (a) Black Helicopters (b)
> which are on low-level rapid approach (c) full Oriental, Arab, and Hispanic
> troopers (c) wearing Blue Helmets.
"There are, however, two companies working on devices that examine the
human iris,
the most notably being IrisScan who owns the patent. The technique's
major
advantage over retina scans is that it does not require the user to focus
on a target,
because the iris pattern is on the eye's surface. In fact, the video
image of an eye can
be taken from several up to 3 feet away, and the user does not have to
interact
actively with the device. Sensar, a company that has licensed the iris
scanning
technology from IriScan hopes to position its IrisIdent product into ATMs
in the
coming years."
http://www.ctst.com/ff_industry.html
I suggest you contact the manufacturer for more information.
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NODE c96a7779Re: Big Brother Is Watching ATMs
"Robert A. Costner" <pooh@efga.org>Tue, 2 Dec 1997 06:28:57 +0800
At 11:37 AM 12/1/97 -0800, Paul Pomes wrote:
>Thomas J. Drury walks up to the automated-teller machine in his suburban
>office and swipes his bank card. Instead of punching in a secret code,
>however, he stares straight ahead. The machine verifies his identity by
>looking at his eyes.
>
>If Mr. Drury, chief executive officer of Sensar Corp., and his colleagues
>have their way, this eye-scanning technology will become standard equipment
>on ATMs around the world. It is being tested by NCR Corp. and Citicorp,
>among others.
As wonderful as eye scanning technology may sound, it promises to offer
very weak identification and only be reliable in the short run. This is
based on the premise that a reproduction of an eye will work as well. Just
as a reproduction of a driver's license seems to work for check forgery.
PINs offer security based on the fact that they are a secret. Not a shared
secret. For comparison, take a look at the authentication procedure of the
SSA and Wells Fargo bank. Over the internet, both want
Social Security Number
Date of Birth
Mother's Maiden Name
Imagine a bank machine requesting the same info as the only prerequisite
for dispensing cash! This info might have been a method of secure
authentication about the time I was born, but today, such info is almost
common knowledge. This no longer is a secret, too many people have the
info. Widespread use of eye scanners will provide the same results. As
databases are built, and sold, the raw info becomes available and automated
tellers become excellent targets for fake authentications. If you get it
wrong, you just walk away.
Eye scans may help aid authentication, but they should not take the place
of PINs.
-- Robert Costner Phone: (770) 512-8746
Electronic Frontiers Georgia mailto:pooh@efga.org
http://www.efga.org/ run PGP 5.0 for my public key
NODE 68f07469Re: Big Brother Is Watching ATMs
David Lucas <davidlu@sco.COM>Tue, 2 Dec 1997 17:33:56 +0800
At 10:50 01/12/97 -0500, you wrote:
>G'day Jonathan,
>
> Could you please identify this "bank card company" by name, card,
>nation, etc. ?
In the UK, it was announced that the Nationwide Building Society was
implementing such a scheme.
Exactly where in the UK this happening, I do not know.