NODE 2bb66f29Jim Bell... lives... on... in... Hollywood!
Julian Assange <proff@iq.org>Thu, 1 Jan 1998 19:08:37 +0800
Anyone noticed this before?
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Scoop the Grim Reaper!
Who will live?
Who will die?
And who will win the grand prize in Dewey's Death Pool -- an
all-expense paid, two-day Hollywood Death Tour for two. Or one of four
quarterly prizes -- a fabulous celebrity death library.
It's fun, it's easy -- and all you have to do to win is correctly
forecast more celebrity deaths for the calendar year 1998 than any
other entrant.
Here's how it works: Between now and December 31, 1997, fill out an
entry form, listing your picks in descending likelihood of death. For
instance, if you believe Celebrity X is a cinch to die within the
year, list him or her in the No. 1 slot, followed by your second most
likely choice in the No. 2 slot, etc. For tie-breaking reasons, a
correct pick in the top slot is worth 10 points, a correct pick in the
second is worth 9 points, and so forth. (Please list an alternative
name in the event that one of your choices dies before the game
begins. The alternative will be substituted in the empty slot and you
will not receive credit for the original name.)
At the end of the year, the contestant with the most correct picks
wins. If there's a tie, the winner will be the person with the highest
point total. In the event of a point-tie, the contestant with the
youngest decedent will win. Judges' decisions are final.
In addition, quarterly prizes (an assortment of guide books, maps,
videos and other celebrity death memoribilia) will be awarded for the
most correct picks within the four three-month intervals ending 11:59
EST on March 31, June 30, September 30 and December 31, 1998. In the
event of ties, tie-breaker rules described above apply. Standings will
be updated on the site regularly.
To qualify as a correct "hit," a death must be noted in one or more of
the following publications: New York Times, Los Angeles Times, U.S.A.
Today, Time, Newsweek or People.
Paid obituaries do not count; the death notice MUST appear in the
context of a news story, roundup item or editorial obituary. If
someone's death is not mentioned in one of the above publications, you
will not receive credit.
You will not receive credit for a death if you somehow contribute to
that person's demise. If there's any dispute over the exact date of a
celebrity's demise, information listed on the death certificate will
prevail.
Dewey's Death Pool is open to residents of the 50 United States and
the District of Columbia who are 18 years or older. For complete
rules, see the Official Rules.
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NODE 035716eaRe: Jim Bell... lives... on... in... Hollywood!
Tim May <tcmay@got.net>Fri, 2 Jan 1998 03:23:23 +0800
At 2:52 AM -0800 1/1/98, Julian Assange wrote:
>Anyone noticed this before?
>
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>Date: 1 Jan 1998 09:54:51 -0000
>Message-ID: <19980101095451.25998.qmail@suburbia.net>
>From: proff@suburbia.net
>To: proff@suburbia.net
>Subject:home.html
>
>
>
> Scoop the Grim Reaper!
>
> Who will live?
>
> Who will die?
Yeah, a few people pointed this out when Bell's "Assassination Politics"
stuff began hitting the CP list, circa fall of 1995.
--Tim May
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ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero
W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets,
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NODE 3dc122d6Re: Jim Bell... lives... on... in... Hollywood!
Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com>Fri, 2 Jan 1998 07:21:29 +0800
On Thu, Jan 01, 1998 at 09:52:20PM +1100, Julian Assange wrote:
>
> Anyone noticed this before?
No. But there are two obvious differences between this and the Bell
plan: 1) it's not anon; 2) you are explicitly barred from winning if
you contribute in any way to the death.
[...]
> You will not receive credit for a death if you somehow contribute to
> that person's demise. If there's any dispute over the exact date of a
> celebrity's demise, information listed on the death certificate will
> prevail.
>
> Dewey's Death Pool is open to residents of the 50 United States and
> the District of Columbia who are 18 years or older. For complete
> rules, see the Official Rules.
So you have to provide proof of age to claim...
[...]
--
Kent Crispin "No reason to get excited",
kent@songbird.com the thief he kindly spoke...
PGP fingerprint: B1 8B 72 ED 55 21 5E 44 61 F4 58 0F 72 10 65 55
http://songbird.com/kent/pgp_key.html
NODE 08b13adcRe: Jim Bell... lives... on... in... Hollywood!
David Honig <honig@otc.net>Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:38:30 +0800
At 10:48 PM 1/7/98 -0800, Sergey Goldgaber wrote:
>On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Kent Crispin wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 01, 1998 at 09:52:20PM +1100, Julian Assange wrote:
>> >
>> > Anyone noticed this before?
>>
>> No. But there are two obvious differences between this and the Bell
>> plan: 1) it's not anon; 2) you are explicitly barred from winning if
>> you contribute in any way to the death.
>
>1 - Anonymity is technically feasable.
>
>2 - This requirement is a legal necessity. Otherwise, the organization
> may be seen as advocating murder.
>
>Obviously, if the "Death Pool" was fully anonymous, there would be
>no way to tell if the winner had contributed in any way to the death.
>
>Thus, I think we may be well on our way to Assasination Politics.
>
> - Sergey Goldgaber
I agree, but "contribute to death" needs to be operationalized. Here's a
proposal:
If a homicide suspect is arrested within N months, they will be isolated
from the net
and the owner of the winning ID will have to perform a challenge-response.
Since
the suspect couldn't have replied, they are different; if a pair
collaborated, well,
when a hit man is caught, his payoff matrix will usually make him turn in
the client.
The N-months might be a weakness since there is no expiration time on
homicide.
But in cases where cause of death is known and it can be proved that the
incarcerated is not the winner, it looks good. E.g., a bet that "more than
two BATF agents will be blown up in 97" would be safely payable now that those
fellows with the short haircuts have been convicted.
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NODE 83bb1d45Re: Jim Bell... lives... on... in... Hollywood!
Sergey Goldgaber <sergey@pelican.el.net>Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:57:04 +0800
On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Kent Crispin wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 01, 1998 at 09:52:20PM +1100, Julian Assange wrote:
> >
> > Anyone noticed this before?
>
> No. But there are two obvious differences between this and the Bell
> plan: 1) it's not anon; 2) you are explicitly barred from winning if
> you contribute in any way to the death.
1 - Anonymity is technically feasable.
2 - This requirement is a legal necessity. Otherwise, the organization
may be seen as advocating murder.
Obviously, if the "Death Pool" was fully anonymous, there would be
no way to tell if the winner had contributed in any way to the death.
Thus, I think we may be well on our way to Assasination Politics.
- Sergey Goldgaber