NODE 36edba1aGermany not so worried about Gestapo wiretaps now
David Honig <honig@otc.net>Sat, 10 Jan 1998 05:42:24 +0800
There are several examples of sacrificing liberty for
security in a G7 country in the article below.
Also the justification of "getting in line with other countries"
is used for allowing civilian SIGINT practices previously banned.
Thursday January 8 11:32 AM EST
Germany to Restore Surveillance
BONN, Germany (Reuters) - German political leaders agreed Thursday to allow
police to bug
apartments of suspected criminals, restoring a crime-fighting tool banned
since abuses by the secret police
in the Nazi era.
Leaders from Chancellor Helmut Kohl's center-right coalition and the
opposition Social Democrats
(SPD) said they had reached a deal allowing police to plant microphones in
private homes of suspected
criminals for the first time since 1945.
Both houses of parliament are now expected to quickly pass the long-debated
measure, which police
have argued was needed to better fight organized crime and bring the
country in line with other nations
that allow electronic surveillance.
Germany, which reacted to the Gestapo's abuses with some of the Western
world's most extensive civil
liberties laws, has long resisted any relaxation in constitutional
protections that have kept police out of
private homes.
Interior Minister Manfred Kanther said the agreement would give police the
necessary tool to fight
organized crime.
"This is a decisive step toward more effectively fighting crime," Kanther
said. "We can now keep
surveillance on suspected gangster apartments and we will be able to better
fight money laundering."
The opposition SPD, which controls the upper house of parliament, the
Bundesrat, said it would support
the measure after the government agreed to partial exemptions for some
professional groups such as
priests, attorneys and journalists.
Police will be required to obtain advance court permission for any
surveillance.
Previously, police were only given rare exemptions to the constitutional
law protecting the private home.
They were allowed to use listening devices or electronic surveillance only
with court permission if there
was concrete evidence that a serious crime was about to take place.
Now authorities will have the power to use eavesdropping methods far more
extensively and will also for
the first time be able to bug apartments after a crime has been committed
to obtain evidence.
Germany's post-war constitution barred police from electronic surveillance,
telephone taps and
intercepting mail. The bans on telephone taps and mail intercepts were
relaxed in the 1970s amid a wave
of left-wing guerrilla attacks.
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NODE 5bacbd45Re: Germany not so worried about Gestapo wiretaps now
Tim May <tcmay@got.net>Sat, 10 Jan 1998 06:15:26 +0800
At 1:18 PM -0800 1/9/98, David Honig wrote:
>There are several examples of sacrificing liberty for
>security in a G7 country in the article below.
>Also the justification of "getting in line with other countries"
>is used for allowing civilian SIGINT practices previously banned.
>Germany, which reacted to the Gestapo's abuses with some of the Western
>world's most extensive civil
>liberties laws, has long resisted any relaxation in constitutional
>protections that have kept police out of
>private homes.
...
I suspect this is only a cosmetic change, in terms of realpolitik.
The BND and other intelligence/law enforcement agencies have very probably
been using the available SIGINT and COMINT tools....maybe just not using
the captured data in courtrooms.
(As with the U.S., where illegal wiretaps and bugs are used for ancillary
purposes, even if not sanctioned by the courts.)
But this still signals a move toward a '1984' situation, with Germany
likely now to relax some of its objections to OECD plans for crypto
restrictions (recall that Germany was opposed to some of the key escrow
plans).
And now that Japan has fallen into line (e.g., by banning the export of the
RSA chip so touted by Bidzos and NTT), the OECD/New World Order is set to
make some moves in '98.
(Things have been quiet on the crypto legislation/international agreements
front, from a news point of view, but we can safely assume that all of
these bad things are moving along behind the scenes, and will once again
become cause celebres.)
--Tim May
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