NODE b36c0e76SC rules 1st doesn't cover lies [CNN]
Jim Choate <ravage@ssz.com>Thu, 22 Jan 1998 04:45:15 +0800
Forwarded message:
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> SUPREME COURT: GOVERNMENT AGENCIES CAN PUNISH WORKERS WHO LIE
>
> January 21, 1998
> Web posted at: 2:53 p.m. EST (1953 GMT)
>
> WASHINGTON (AP) -- Government agencies can punish employees who lie
> while being investigated for employment-related misconduct, the
> Supreme Court ruled unanimously Wednesday.
>
> The court overturned rulings in five separate cases that had barred
> federal agencies from stiffening the disciplinary action taken
> against wayward employees based on false statements they made when
> questioned about their misconduct.
>
> Although the decision dealt with federal employees, its rationale
> appeared to affect state and local government employees as well.
> Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist wrote for the court that nothing
> in the Constitution nor any federal law bars such punishment.
>
> "A citizen may decline to answer the question, or answer it
> honestly, but he cannot with impunity knowingly and willfully answer
> with a falsehood," Rehnquist said.
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NODE 86623904Re: SC rules 1st doesn't cover lies [CNN]
Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:25:35 +0800
Clarification on the Subject: line -- the court's ruling, at least as
described below, applies only to government employees. It is the
state-as-employer, not the state-as-sovereign, role the court is discussing.
In other words, we're still free to lie, cheat, and steal[1].
-Declan
[1] Unless it's a copyrighted work; if it is, you'll go to federal prison
and be fined a quarter-mil. Thanks, Bill Gates and the Software Publishers
Association.
At 14:40 -0600 1/21/98, Jim Choate wrote:
>Forwarded message:
>
>>
>> SUPREME COURT: GOVERNMENT AGENCIES CAN PUNISH WORKERS WHO LIE
>>
>> January 21, 1998
>> Web posted at: 2:53 p.m. EST (1953 GMT)
>>
>> WASHINGTON (AP) -- Government agencies can punish employees who lie
>> while being investigated for employment-related misconduct, the
>> Supreme Court ruled unanimously Wednesday.
>>
>> The court overturned rulings in five separate cases that had barred
>> federal agencies from stiffening the disciplinary action taken
>> against wayward employees based on false statements they made when
>> questioned about their misconduct.
>>
>> Although the decision dealt with federal employees, its rationale
>> appeared to affect state and local government employees as well.
>> Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist wrote for the court that nothing
>> in the Constitution nor any federal law bars such punishment.
>>
>> "A citizen may decline to answer the question, or answer it
>> honestly, but he cannot with impunity knowingly and willfully answer
>> with a falsehood," Rehnquist said.
>
>
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> | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, |
> | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. |
> | |
> | Sign in Ed Barsis' office |
> | |
> | _____ The Armadillo Group |
> | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA |
> | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ |
> | .', |||| `/( e\ |
> | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate |
> | ravage@ssz.com |
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> |____________________________________________________________________|
NODE dc22e177Re: SC rules 1st doesn't cover lies [CNN]
"William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@invweb.net>Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:39:34 +0800
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In <v03007801b0ec7f42436a@[168.161.105.216]>, on 01/21/98
at 11:47 PM, Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> said:
>[1] Unless it's a copyrighted work; if it is, you'll go to federal prison
>and be fined a quarter-mil. Thanks, Bill Gates and the Software
>Publishers Association.
Perhaps we could convince Sun to press for *criminal* charges against Bill
Gates as part of thier current battle over Java.
I think it would only be fitting to set the tables turned against these
SOB's.
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