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SC rules 1st doesn't cover lies [CNN]

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NODE b36c0e76SC rules 1st doesn't cover lies [CNN]
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>          SUPREME COURT: GOVERNMENT AGENCIES CAN PUNISH WORKERS WHO LIE
>                                        
>      January 21, 1998
>      Web posted at: 2:53 p.m. EST (1953 GMT)
>      
>      WASHINGTON (AP) -- Government agencies can punish employees who lie
>      while being investigated for employment-related misconduct, the
>      Supreme Court ruled unanimously Wednesday.
>      
>      The court overturned rulings in five separate cases that had barred
>      federal agencies from stiffening the disciplinary action taken
>      against wayward employees based on false statements they made when
>      questioned about their misconduct.
>      
>      Although the decision dealt with federal employees, its rationale
>      appeared to affect state and local government employees as well.
>      Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist wrote for the court that nothing
>      in the Constitution nor any federal law bars such punishment.
>      
>      "A citizen may decline to answer the question, or answer it
>      honestly, but he cannot with impunity knowingly and willfully answer
>      with a falsehood," Rehnquist said.


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NODE 86623904Re: SC rules 1st doesn't cover lies [CNN]
Clarification on the Subject: line -- the court's ruling, at least as
described below, applies only to government employees. It is the
state-as-employer, not the state-as-sovereign, role the court is discussing.

In other words, we're still free to lie, cheat, and steal[1].

-Declan

[1] Unless it's a copyrighted work; if it is, you'll go to federal prison
and be fined a quarter-mil. Thanks, Bill Gates and the Software Publishers
Association.


At 14:40 -0600 1/21/98, Jim Choate wrote:
>Forwarded message:
>
>>
>>          SUPREME COURT: GOVERNMENT AGENCIES CAN PUNISH WORKERS WHO LIE
>>
>>      January 21, 1998
>>      Web posted at: 2:53 p.m. EST (1953 GMT)
>>
>>      WASHINGTON (AP) -- Government agencies can punish employees who lie
>>      while being investigated for employment-related misconduct, the
>>      Supreme Court ruled unanimously Wednesday.
>>
>>      The court overturned rulings in five separate cases that had barred
>>      federal agencies from stiffening the disciplinary action taken
>>      against wayward employees based on false statements they made when
>>      questioned about their misconduct.
>>
>>      Although the decision dealt with federal employees, its rationale
>>      appeared to affect state and local government employees as well.
>>      Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist wrote for the court that nothing
>>      in the Constitution nor any federal law bars such punishment.
>>
>>      "A citizen may decline to answer the question, or answer it
>>      honestly, but he cannot with impunity knowingly and willfully answer
>>      with a falsehood," Rehnquist said.
>
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NODE dc22e177Re: SC rules 1st doesn't cover lies [CNN]
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In <v03007801b0ec7f42436a@[168.161.105.216]>, on 01/21/98 
   at 11:47 PM, Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> said:

>[1] Unless it's a copyrighted work; if it is, you'll go to federal prison
>and be fined a quarter-mil. Thanks, Bill Gates and the Software
>Publishers Association.

Perhaps we could convince Sun to press for *criminal* charges against Bill
Gates as part of thier current battle over Java.

I think it would only be fitting to set the tables turned against these
SOB's.

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