NODE d300ab77Clinton needs a war with Iraq
Tim May <tcmay@got.net>Sun, 25 Jan 1998 05:12:47 +0800
There are increasing reports, from Washington and Baghdad, that Clinton
wants a nice little war action in Iraq, which would have the side effect of
boosting his support...or so he hopes.
If this happens, it may be time for hackers to use technical means to
disrupt the war effort.
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NODE 9fa9dfefRe: Clinton needs a war with Iraq
dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)Sun, 25 Jan 1998 07:58:10 +0800
Tim May <tcmay@got.net> writes:
> There are increasing reports, from Washington and Baghdad, that Clinton
> wants a nice little war action in Iraq, which would have the side effect of
> boosting his support...or so he hopes.
>
> If this happens, it may be time for hackers to use technical means to
> disrupt the war effort.
I'm with you, Commander Timmy. What can I do do get some American aggressors
killed?
Hands off Iraq!
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NODE da66b109Re: Clinton needs a war with Iraq
"Attila T. Hun" <attila@hun.org>Sun, 25 Jan 1998 17:49:39 +0800
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Tim May <tcmay@got.net> was purported to have
expostulated to perpetuate an opinion:
>There are increasing reports, from Washington and Baghdad, that Clinton
>wants a nice little war action in Iraq, which would have the side effect
>of boosting his support...or so he hopes.
>
since the Korean war, American involvement in foreign wars,
or the war effort, has escalated in relationship to the
needs of the economy --the war effort boosts industrial
utilization --eg money and the economy-- and Americans vote
with their pocketbooks.
Clinton just might be dumb enough to consider a war footing
would take the collective minds off his incredible stupidity
--the man is literally being led around by his crank; bubba
must have heard too many stories about hairy palms...
as Maureen said in the Times, most Americans had accepted
that Clinton was a charming rogue --but this last round is
exposing the callous disregard for not only women, but truth
and respect for privilege-- that is the end of confidence,
and like any relationship, the loss of confidence is
self-destructive.
the concern should be for the troops who could be left
standing in the desert whistling Dixie... Bush was able to
rally support from foreign powers, which led to domestic
support, primarily due to his good report and respect from
foreign leaders --bubba is a laughing stock; who will follow
his flag.
if the tapes are even close to real, Clinton needs to take
helicopter one to Andrews and fade into history --NOW. the
thought of Al Bore in the Presidency is appalling --but it
certainly can not be any worse than bubba. al bore will be
intractable with the Republican Congress, but so what else
is new? --at least they can not create bad law!
>If this happens, it may be time for hackers to use technical means to
>disrupt the war effort.
I frankly dont believe you made that suggestion --the damage
would not be to the government, but to our fellow citizens
who have been ordered to commence action. I did not agree
with what I was orderer to do, but I did not place the lives
of my dependent troops in danger for my beliefs --I resigned
the commission eventually and have been a foe of their
dishonest foreign policy ever since.
regardless of the immorality and stupidity of Clinton, there
is no justification, and certainly no honour, for permitting
KIA American troops to be dumped into the spectacle of being
dragged through the streets of Somalia, etc.
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NODE e034e31eRe: Clinton needs a war with Iraq
"snow" <snow@smoke.suba.com>Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:37:55 +0800
> since the Korean war, American involvement in foreign wars,
> or the war effort, has escalated in relationship to the
> needs of the economy --the war effort boosts industrial
> utilization --eg money and the economy-- and Americans vote
> with their pocketbooks.
World War II.
> I frankly dont believe you made that suggestion --the damage
> would not be to the government, but to our fellow citizens
> who have been ordered to commence action. I did not agree
Not if used properly. It could properly be used to _delay_
engagement, or even avoid it.
Besides, they (and I was one at one time) volunteered. Most every
one in the military now has had the chance to leave since Cliton took office.
Their continued enlistment is support.
> regardless of the immorality and stupidity of Clinton, there
> is no justification, and certainly no honour, for permitting
> KIA American troops to be dumped into the spectacle of being
> dragged through the streets of Somalia, etc.
If those with the power were to make sure that they never got there,
then they couldn't be dragged thru the streets now could they?
NODE 5f92e8a6Re: Clinton needs a war with Iraq
Jonathan Wienke <JonWienk@ix.netcom.com>Sun, 25 Jan 1998 20:55:28 +0800
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At 01:06 PM 1/24/98 -0800, Tim May wrote:
>
>There are increasing reports, from Washington and Baghdad, that Clinton
>wants a nice little war action in Iraq, which would have the side effect
of
>boosting his support...or so he hopes.
Can you say "Wag The Dog," boys & girls?
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NODE 2242ce2cRe: Clinton needs a war with Iraq
David Honig <honig@otc.net>Tue, 27 Jan 1998 01:25:58 +0800
At 06:37 PM 1/24/98 EST, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
disrupt the war effort.
>
>I'm with you, Commander Timmy. What can I do do get some American aggressors
>killed?
>
>Hands off Iraq!
>
You haven't been having sexual relations with the President, have you Dmitri?
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