NODE 0db68bd1Trust
James Morris <jmorris@intercode.com.au>Thu, 12 Feb 1998 17:04:12 -0800 (PST)
I'm just wondering if anyone else finds it particularly odd that while
Australia is prepared to commit SAS troops, medical and intelligence
personnel to a possible strike against Iraq, the US government still
doesn't seem to trust us enough to use US developed cryptography
products with adequate security.
- James.
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James Morris
<jmorris@intercode.com.au>
NODE 4e195f95Re: Sabotaging Australian Involvement in Bill's War
David Honig <honig@otc.net>Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:08:57 -0800 (PST)
At 06:45 PM 2/12/98 -0800, Tim May wrote:
>At 5:01 PM -0800 2/12/98, James Morris wrote:
>>I'm just wondering if anyone else finds it particularly odd that while
>>Australia is prepared to commit SAS troops, medical and intelligence
>>personnel to a possible strike against Iraq, the US government still
>>doesn't seem to trust us enough to use US developed cryptography
>>products with adequate security.
>
>It's not at all odd.
>
>In the New World Order, you Aussies are children.
Well, We don't let Aussies have guns, why should we trust them with our
cryptographic munitions?
Look, if you have a problem with US domination, just fax your complaints to
your local Aussie officials. Our Echelon people will forward
it to us, no problem.
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NODE 8b31f5e9Sabotaging Australian Involvement in Bill's War
Tim May <tcmay@got.net>Thu, 12 Feb 1998 18:43:50 -0800 (PST)
At 5:01 PM -0800 2/12/98, James Morris wrote:
>I'm just wondering if anyone else finds it particularly odd that while
>Australia is prepared to commit SAS troops, medical and intelligence
>personnel to a possible strike against Iraq, the US government still
>doesn't seem to trust us enough to use US developed cryptography
>products with adequate security.
It's not at all odd.
In the New World Order, you Aussies are children. As children, your role is
to die in wars like Viet Nam and the Gulf, under orders from the New World
Reichsfuhrer.
And like the American children sent to die in wars at age 18, but too young
to either vote or drink alchohol, children cannot be allowed to possess
dangerous crypto tools which might let them deviate from parental wishes.
(Seriously, what the holy fuck are you Aussies doing getting involved in
our Moral Leader's vanity war with Saddam? The United Nations authorized
action in 1990 to "liberate Kuwait." That was done. All this recent
folderol about "ensuring Saddam complies with inspections" is outside the
original charter. And, of course, pointless. If the U.S. launches Bill's
War, I hope it gets paid back in full with some attacks by freedom
fighters. Maybe then Amerika will lose its desire to boss the world around
and will get back to basics.)
--Tim May
Just Say No to "Big Brother Inside"
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NODE 0d6ae041Re: Sabotaging Australian Involvement in Bill's War
? the Platypus {aka David Formosa} <dformosa@st.nepean.uws.edu.au>Thu, 12 Feb 1998 22:21:09 -0800 (PST)
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On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Tim May wrote:
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> (Seriously, what the holy fuck are you Aussies doing getting involved in
> our Moral Leader's vanity war with Saddam?
Our goverment has this quite silly beleafe that if we tag allong with all
your wars, when we get attacked the great Amiracan peaple will come to our
aid out of a sence of appreashation.
The flaw with this is that most amaricans don't know where australia is,
let allown care about it.
- --
Please excuse my spelling as I suffer from agraphia see the url in my header.
Never trust a country with more peaple then sheep. ex-net.scum and proud
You Say To People "Throw Off Your Chains" And They Make New Chains For
Themselves? --Terry Pratchett.
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NODE b4ab9338Re: Trust
David Formosa <dformosa@st.nepean.uws.edu.au>Thu, 12 Feb 1998 20:48:36 -0800 (PST)
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On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, James Morris wrote:
> I'm just wondering if anyone else finds it particularly odd that while
> Australia is prepared to commit SAS troops, medical and intelligence
> personnel to a possible strike against Iraq
Nope you haven't relised that the austrailian goverment is the well
trained lap dog of amirica. Always ready to roll over and get screwed by
the USA.
> , the US government still
> doesn't seem to trust us enough to use US developed cryptography
> products with adequate security.
Of cause not, who would turst a subordermate with such things. Of cause
we have devoloped softwhere (like SSLeay) that works just as well as any
from the US. But we can't export something to au because the US is so
much more advansted then us, so we can't be trusted with such products.
- --
Please excuse my spelling as I suffer from agraphia see the url in my header.
Never trust a country with more peaple then sheep. ex-net.scum and proud
You Say To People "Throw Off Your Chains" And They Make New Chains For
Themselves? --Terry Pratchett.
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