Fight ECHELON while the topic is hot!

>   From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@invweb.net>
   >   Date: Tue, 24 Feb 98 09:16:29 -0500
   >   
   >   >It's high time Don Mclean (sic) or someone took the
   >   >extensive documentation collected in the Cryptography
   >   >Manifesto regarding this, which includes massive USA domestic spying, and
   >   >started writing news stories about it, and
   >   >get other news organizations interested in the questions
   >   >raised. Questions to be put to Senators.
   >   
   >   >Why?
   >   
   >   >Because it is ECHELON, not pedophiles, not drug dealers,
   >   >that is not only the hold-up for freely exportable
   >   >software, but also for why the FBI has openly moved
   >   >to regulate all domestic cryptography into oblivion.
   >   
   >   >The story of massive spying is one "the American people"
   >   >can understand. Cryptography is too distant.
   >   
   >   >Go for it, someone, please.
   >   
   >   The sheeple don't care.
   >   
   >   The sheeple are well aware of the abuses of power by our government and
   >   they don't care nor have they cared for a long time. So long as they have
   >   a roof over their heads, cloths on their back, a color TV and their
   >   microwave dinners they are willing to let the government do whatever they
   >   want.

Whooey!

I'd say a number of senior people on this list are burnt
out fighting the good fight.

Did the government at least acknowledge it fucked up
in the Weaver case to the tune of $3.1 million?

Didn't the person in charge, who Freeh promoted to
second-in-command at the FBI, have his career destroyed?

Didn't the government finally back down on their
attempt to legally kill the Unabomber?

Didn't the Pentagon Papers make it out?

Isn't ECHELON documented by person after person,
including someone formerly in DOJ with top-secret
clearance?

Go for it!

It is *you* who are advocating being a "sheeple"!!!
---guy

   Shame on you.

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In <199802241543.KAA18074@panix2.panix.com>, on 02/24/98 
   at 10:43 AM, Information Security <guy@panix.com> said:

>Whooey!

>I'd say a number of senior people on this list are burnt
>out fighting the good fight.

>Did the government at least acknowledge it fucked up
>in the Weaver case to the tune of $3.1 million?

Nope, as a matter of fact the Administration was just arguing before the
SC that the murders in this case should not be held accountable.

>Didn't the person in charge, who Freeh promoted to
>second-in-command at the FBI, have his career destroyed?

One scapegoat and the organization goes on, business as usual. When I see
a 100,000 citizens storm the J.E.Hoover Building and drag that ratbastard
Freeh out by his heals then come back and tell us what a difference you
have made.

>Didn't the government finally back down on their
>attempt to legally kill the Unabomber?

So what? IMHO he should have been fried. Hell I'll even pay for the plane
ticket for him to come down here and meet 'ol sparky. :)

>Didn't the Pentagon Papers make it out?

What did it change? NOTHING

>Isn't ECHELON documented by person after person,
>including someone formerly in DOJ with top-secret
>clearance?

>Go for it!

>It is *you* who are advocating being a "sheeple"!!!

No not at all I just don't have any pie-in-the-sky daydreams that it will
mean squat! I have better things to do with my time than dealing with a
news media who's highest goal is to sell more tampons and toilet paper to
the sheeple.

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"William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@invweb.net> writes:

> No not at all I just don't have any pie-in-the-sky daydreams that it will
> mean squat! I have better things to do with my time than dealing with a

Please, please go do better things.

Cheers,
Julian.