Re: County Mounties Spit on the 4th Amendment

>Oh! The 4th amendment? That dusty old thing? When the scumbags 
>are kicking in your door which would you rather have protecting >you: a raggedy old piece of paper or a Prince George County >Mountie SWAT team in full ninja dress and the latest high-tech >law-enforcement goodies? Thought so. Cup's at the end of the >counter comrade. Have a nice day. 

You couldn't be talking about Prince George, Canada, could you?
"Mounties" are Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), and are 
limited to Canada, and Disney World.

Anonymous Sender enscribed thusly:
> >Oh! The 4th amendment? That dusty old thing? When the scumbags 
> >are kicking in your door which would you rather have protecting >you: a raggedy old piece of paper or a Prince George County >Mountie SWAT team in full ninja dress and the latest high-tech >law-enforcement goodies? Thought so. Cup's at the end of the >counter comrade. Have a nice day. 

> You couldn't be talking about Prince George, Canada, could you?
> "Mounties" are Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), and are 
> limited to Canada, and Disney World.

	"County Mounties" is a CB (Citizens Band Radio for those not
familiar with US radio) slang term in the US for local police.  Conversely
"Supertroupers" refers to State Patrol.  The term "Smokie" (coined from
the movie Smokie and the Bandit) refers to all police.

	Mike
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At 6:25 AM -0800 2/3/98, Michael H. Warfield wrote:

>"Supertroupers" refers to State Patrol.  The term "Smokie" (coined from
>the movie Smokie and the Bandit) refers to all police.

Nope, not coined from the movie.

Just the reverse.

Highway cops were called "smokies" (or "smokeys") when I was growing up in
Virginia in the 60s, long before the movie.

I haven't checked the derivation, but had always assumed it came from the
Smokey the Bear figure, who wore a tall, broad-brimmed hat (also known as a
campaign hat). The hat worn by many state highway patrols. Ergo, "smokeys."

(I used to see the _real_ Smokey the Bear at the Washington Zoo. I think he
died of old age in the 1970s.)

(A URL with a few details is
http://www.4j.lane.edu/websites/roosevelt/Connections/smokey.html)


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Tim May enscribed thusly:
> At 6:25 AM -0800 2/3/98, Michael H. Warfield wrote:

> >"Supertroupers" refers to State Patrol.  The term "Smokie" (coined from
> >the movie Smokie and the Bandit) refers to all police.

> Nope, not coined from the movie.

> Just the reverse.

> Highway cops were called "smokies" (or "smokeys") when I was growing up in
> Virginia in the 60s, long before the movie.

	Point conceded.  Quite correct.

> I haven't checked the derivation, but had always assumed it came from the
> Smokey the Bear figure, who wore a tall, broad-brimmed hat (also known as a
> campaign hat). The hat worn by many state highway patrols. Ergo, "smokeys."

	Yeah, I think that's true as well, now that you remind me.

> (I used to see the _real_ Smokey the Bear at the Washington Zoo. I think he
> died of old age in the 1970s.)

> (A URL with a few details is
> http://www.4j.lane.edu/websites/roosevelt/Connections/smokey.html)


> --Tim May, posting from the Bear State

> "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
> ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:----
> Timothy C. May              | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money,
> ComSec 3DES:   408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero
> W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA  | knowledge, reputations, information markets,
> Higher Power: 2^3,021,377   | black markets, collapse of governments.

	Mike
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At 09:25 AM 2/3/98 -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
>	"County Mounties" is a CB (Citizens Band Radio for those not
>familiar with US radio) slang term in the US for local police.  Conversely
>"Supertroupers" refers to State Patrol.  The term "Smokie" (coined from
>the movie Smokie and the Bandit) refers to all police.

Argh - get your history right, kid!   The movie Smokey and the Bandit
used the already-current slang for cops, which was based on the
Smokey The Bear hats that many police uniforms use.

				Thanks! 
					Bill
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