NODE e5d89869Pensacola Police have lost their mind!! (fwd)
Jim Choate <ravage@ssz.com>Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:01:56 +0800
Forwarded message:
> From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@invweb.net>
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 98 20:27:22 -0500
> Subject: Pensacola Police have lost their mind!!
> I don't know if this story has reached the AP wire or not but today the
> brave defenders of the faith here in Pensacola, FL have done their sworn
> duty to protect us all by arresting a 5yr old on assault charges (againts
> one of the Adult staff of the school).
It made it to CNN.
> These are the same brave soles who a few months ago when confronted by a
> man sitting in his car with a gun to his head solved this problem by
> riddeling his car, surrounding buildings, and a McDonalds playground with
> over 100 rounds.
>
> As soon as I have some more information on this I will post a full report.
Their story was that the child had a behavioral problem and the parents
refused to get counceling when the school requested. She apparently goes on
room smashing temper tantrums on a regular basis. The father of the child
said it was the most ludicrous thing he had ever heard of, reportedly.
Can't say that changes the situation a heck of a lot though...
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NODE 974adfacRe: Pensacola Police have lost their mind!! (fwd)
"William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@invweb.net>Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:39:06 +0800
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>Their story was that the child had a behavioral problem and the parents
>refused to get counceling when the school requested. She apparently goes
>on room smashing temper tantrums on a regular basis. The father of the
>child said it was the most ludicrous thing he had ever heard of,
>reportedly.
Well sounds like we are getting some CYA spindoctoring going on now that
there is National Attention. None of the early reports had any mention of
a cronic behavior problem. I posted the article from our local paper in a
seperate post.
>Can't say that changes the situation a heck of a lot though...
No not at all. We have some serious problems with the County Sherifs
Department down here.
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NODE e409c8d0Some children are rabid and need to be put down
Tim May <tcmay@got.net>Sat, 21 Feb 1998 12:32:50 +0800
At 6:29 PM -0800 2/20/98, William H. Geiger III wrote:
>No not at all. We have some serious problems with the County Sherifs
>Department down here.
>
I'm having a hard time understanding all this criticism of the actions.
>From what I've read, the girl bit, scratched, threw chairs, etc.
Many of us think 13- and 14-year-olds who commit murder should be executed
(well, I do), so why should younger children be exempt from legal action?
I know that if a kid was throwing chairs at me I'd be tempted to throw a
punch back...something that is strictly verboten. Lawsuits, criminal
prosecution, never work in the school system again, that sort of verboten.
If a teacher can't defend herself, legally and professionally, from
children biting and throwing chairs, the cops have to be called.
And from what I've heard about this little girl, it's beginning to sound
like she ought to be put down like a dog that can't stop biting. Or at
least kicked out of the school completely...perhaps a reform school will
straighten her out.
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NODE fd05d02eRe: Some children are rabid and need to be put down
Eric Cordian <emc@wire.insync.net>Sat, 21 Feb 1998 13:26:39 +0800
Tim May writes:
> And from what I've heard about this little girl, it's beginning to sound
> like she ought to be put down like a dog that can't stop biting. Or at
> least kicked out of the school completely...perhaps a reform school will
> straighten her out.
In other Florida news, a 23 year old female daycare worker picked up a
kitchen knife and stabbed a mother to death, after the mother complained
that the worker had hit and pinched her 5 year old son.
We don't really know what the counselor said or did to this 5 year old
girl before the biting started, and given the anti-youth bias of the
mainstream press, we are unlikely to find out. Even if some horrendous
tale of harrassment by school staff emerges, it will simply be suggested
that they were "disciplining" her for her "behavior problem."
Now she may have a legitimate problem, and may have started biting and
scratching in response to the counselor saying - "Good morning. You look
lovely today."
Then again....
It is rarely useful to take things like this at face value, especially
given the spin control talents of school administrators and the teachers
union.
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