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Re: UPSs

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NODE 6bb99543Re: UPSs
In a message dated 98-03-19 05:36:18 EST, jkwilli2@unity.ncsu.edu writes:

<< How many times have you been struck by lightning, Stan?  The effects are
 showing...  >>

That, my fellow cypherpunks, was known as a 'ad hominem' attack (an attack on
(supposed) character, because Ken Williams is too STUPID (after all, he's a
"Know-nothing") to be able to attack what I've said.)

Stan
NODE 47985270Re: UPSs
some protection is better than none. my roommate and I have our
computers in the same room off of the same outlet but my computer has an
UPS and his does not. During a storm, lightning hit near the apartment
building and it took out his computer but not mine. But I do have a
friend who lost his computer to a direct strike to the power lines and
it took out the surge strip as well. At least in my case, it was not a
direct strike into the power lines but what happened to my roommate made
him get an UPS to at least have some protection next time. At least he
will not have to possibly shell out another $1,500 for another computer.
NODE 449b1ed4Re: UPSs
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On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, StanSquncr wrote:

> In a message dated 98-03-19 05:36:18 EST, jkwilli2@unity.ncsu.edu writes:
> 
> << How many times have you been struck by lightning, Stan?  The effects are
>  showing...  >>
> 
> That, my fellow cypherpunks, was known as a 'ad hominem' attack (an attack on
> (supposed) character, because Ken Williams is too STUPID (after all, he's a
> "Know-nothing") to be able to attack what I've said.)

Actually, I believe it was because what you said was too stupid to be
attacked.. no offense.

The thread was about TEMPEST-related EMR. .. and your quote in question
was:

>BUT, even the fastest electronics cannot respond fast enough to the initial
>spike, if that spike is too high in the first place (if your incoming power
>lines get hit by lightning, for instance), it's already too late.  My
>suggestion, don't trust a UPS to eliminate spikes, get it if you
> anticipate a need for back-up power to shut down your system in case of
> black-out (and screw the surge protectors, trust the filtering in your
> power supply to do that for you.)

See.. now.. you're clearly talking about power protection.. but, you see
we _weren't_ talking about power outages, we were talking about
compromising emanations being sent through power lines.. and as far
as the UPS goes, whether or not a UPS would help such muffle such
emanations.

Two completely different things. You may as well have said "Yeah, UPS is
great. They have good rates on ground shipping."

In which case the response of..

> << How many times have you been struck by lightning, Stan?  The effects
> are showing...  >>

..might well be appropriate.

Michael J. Graffam (mgraffam@mhv.net)
http://www.mhv.net/~mgraffam -- Philosophy, Religion, Computers, Crypto, etc
I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward. It is not
desirable to cultivate a respect for the law, so much as for the right.
				Henry David Thoreau "Civil Disobedience"

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