NODE d33f37aaillegal export of pgp.zip by .mil
David Honig <honig@otc.net>Wed, 1 Apr 1998 23:32:55 -0800 (PST)
http://braggbbs.bragg.army.mil/libs/utils.htm
has a link to ftp://bbs.bragg.army.mil/library/utils/pgp262.zip
Someone (from Europe, ideally) should clue these people
in. Maybe cc the media.
honig@alum.mit.edu
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NODE d78824c2Re: illegal export of pgp.zip by .mil
Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:42:52 -0800 (PST)
At 2:32 AM -0500 on 4/2/98, David Honig wrote:
>
> http://braggbbs.bragg.army.mil/libs/utils.htm
> has a link to ftp://bbs.bragg.army.mil/library/utils/pgp262.zip
This is really nothing new. My understanding is that when Kelly Goen posted
the original PGP to USENET, he set the distribution to US only, or at the
very least North America only.
However, some mis-configured news machine actually exported PGP to the rest
of the world by ignoring the distribution request on those news messages.
The machine in question had a .mil domain name. :-).
Cheers,
Bob Hettinga
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NODE 2e28a83aRe: illegal export of pgp.zip by .mil
Sunder <sunder@brainlink.com>Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:15:10 -0800 (PST)
Instead of making a fuss over this, we should thank the very wise and
very smart sysadmins at these .mil machines for providing this wonderful
service for us. By making themselves look totally clueless, they've provided
for the spread of privacy and freedom of privacy! That's truly commendable!
Personally, I will raise my next glass of beer in their honor! :)
Robert Hettinga wrote:
>
> At 2:32 AM -0500 on 4/2/98, David Honig wrote:
>
> >
> > http://braggbbs.bragg.army.mil/libs/utils.htm
> > has a link to ftp://bbs.bragg.army.mil/library/utils/pgp262.zip
>
> This is really nothing new. My understanding is that when Kelly Goen posted
> the original PGP to USENET, he set the distribution to US only, or at the
> very least North America only.
>
> However, some mis-configured news machine actually exported PGP to the rest
> of the world by ignoring the distribution request on those news messages.
>
> The machine in question had a .mil domain name. :-).
>
> Cheers,
> Bob Hettinga
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NODE e6efcb13Re: illegal export of pgp.zip by .mil
David Honig <honig@alum.mit.edu>Fri, 3 Apr 1998 09:47:09 -0800 (PST)
At 11:10 AM 4/2/98 -0500, Sunder wrote:
>Instead of making a fuss over this, we should thank the very wise and
>very smart sysadmins at these .mil machines for providing this wonderful
>service for us. By making themselves look totally clueless, they've provided
>for the spread of privacy and freedom of privacy! That's truly commendable!
>
>Personally, I will raise my next glass of beer in their honor! :)
As of 6:57 this morning, according to the timestamp in
ftp://bbs.bragg.army.mil/library/
they removed pgp262.zip from their ftp site. Though of course they didn't
bother to clean up
their link to it :-P.
Thanks to the civil servant readers of this list who phoned the boys at
Bragg. The world is safe
again. Apologies to the sysop who probably caught some abuse.
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NODE 44df3ae2Re: illegal export of pgp.zip by .mil
Mike <blazer@mail.nevalink.ru>Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:51:35 -0800 (PST)
Guys, what are you talking about? Just go through any proxy that ends
with .us or .net or .com (or Anonymizer) and give any e-mail address
from hotmail or yahoo.com or anything else - and MIT pgp will be yours
in few minutes.
If this means "restrictions" I'm sorry ;)
Mike
Sunder wrote:
>
> Instead of making a fuss over this, we should thank the very wise and
> very smart sysadmins at these .mil machines for providing this wonderful
> service for us. By making themselves look totally clueless, they've provided
> for the spread of privacy and freedom of privacy! That's truly commendable!
>
> Personally, I will raise my next glass of beer in their honor! :)
>
> Robert Hettinga wrote:
> >
> > At 2:32 AM -0500 on 4/2/98, David Honig wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > http://braggbbs.bragg.army.mil/libs/utils.htm
> > > has a link to ftp://bbs.bragg.army.mil/library/utils/pgp262.zip
> >
> > This is really nothing new. My understanding is that when Kelly Goen posted
> > the original PGP to USENET, he set the distribution to US only, or at the
> > very least North America only.
> >
> > However, some mis-configured news machine actually exported PGP to the rest
> > of the world by ignoring the distribution request on those news messages.
> >
> > The machine in question had a .mil domain name. :-).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Bob Hettinga
>
> --
>
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> ..\|/..|sunder@sundernet.com|you once again. I thought you were |/\|/\
> <--*-->| ------------------ |hiding, and you thought that I had run |\/|\/
> ../|\..| "A toast to Odin, |away chasing the tail of dogma. I opened|.\|/.
> .+.v.+.|God of screwdrivers"|my eye and there we were.... |.....
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