NODE 0069fc34Schneier on Smartcards and Holding Secrets
David Honig <honig@alum.mit.edu>Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:44:12 -0700 (PDT)
Bruce wrote a short letter to a trade mag (Internet world? I've
lost it since) worth reporting. The jist was, if a smartcard
contains Bank Secrets but is held by customers which do not
share the same goals/responsibility as the owner of the secrets, this is
*poor security design*.
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NODE e1b70630Re: Schneier on Smartcards and Holding Secrets
Lucky Green <shamrock@cypherpunks.to>Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:53:46 -0700 (PDT)
On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, David Honig wrote:
>
> Bruce wrote a short letter to a trade mag (Internet world? I've
> lost it since) worth reporting. The jist was, if a smartcard
> contains Bank Secrets but is held by customers which do not
> share the same goals/responsibility as the owner of the secrets, this is
> *poor security design*.
No kidding. Duh.
-- Lucky Green <shamrock@cypherpunks.to> PGP v5 encrypted email preferred.
"Tonga? Where the hell is Tonga? They have Cypherpunks there?"
NODE aff42adeRe: Schneier on Smartcards and Holding Secrets
Adam Shostack <adam@homeport.org>Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:31:47 -0700 (PDT)
Lucky Green wrote:
| On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, David Honig wrote:
|
| >
| > Bruce wrote a short letter to a trade mag (Internet world? I've
| > lost it since) worth reporting. The jist was, if a smartcard
| > contains Bank Secrets but is held by customers which do not
| > share the same goals/responsibility as the owner of the secrets, this is
| > *poor security design*.
|
| No kidding. Duh.
I make this point by saying 'if the smartcard is my agent, its useful.
If its the bank's agent--well, its under my complete control, isn't
it?'
Adam
--
Just be thankful that Microsoft does not manufacture pharmaceuticals.
NODE fb0c49b9Re: Schneier on Smartcards and Holding Secrets
Toto <toto@sk.sympatico.ca>Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:58:47 -0700 (PDT)
David Honig wrote:
>
>
> Bruce wrote a short letter to a trade mag (Internet world? I've
> lost it since) worth reporting. The jist was, if a smartcard
> contains Bank Secrets but is held by customers which do not
> share the same goals/responsibility as the owner of the secrets, this is
> *poor security design*.
LEA's in Montreal (?) just raided a place churning out a wide variety
of Lucky Green Freelance Socialist Smartcards (TM).
It seems that the Electronic Horatio Algers involved simply bought the
same type of equipment that banks,etc., use, and placed hidden cameras
in business areas where charge/debit cards were used.
The LEAs spoke about millions of dollars worth of fraud, but I don't
think they were including possible losses by secret government agencies
skimming private funds for black-bag jobs and illegal arms deals.
The 'criminals' will probably turn out to be ex-employees of the
Oliver North Campaign Fund Drive.
Toto