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Skipjack extensibility

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NODE 88f6adedSkipjack extensibility
NSA made a claim that Skipjack couldn't be extended past 80 bits of key. Most
plausible explanation to my mind is that they're lying. Second is that there is
an attack against a class of Skipjack-like ciphers that requires only a few
plaintexts and 2^80 operations. Third is that some common key-lengthening
tricks like those for 2-key-3DES, DES-X, and DEAL fail when applied to
Skipjack. I can hardly fathom one resistant to all three, but I guess it's
possible with NSA.

Seems to me that you could always figure out some construct so that no
practically-secure cipher with Skipjack's observable properties could evade
having its key lengthened with much probability. Or maybe not. IANAC.

Besides, it's impossible to make a cipher that can't be used to construct
constructs with bigger key lengths: Skipjack(cryptovariable, IDEA(key,
plaintext)) -- terminology jab intended -- provably has an effective key length
as long as IDEA's. Even if that is cheating...
NODE e35b8249Re: Skipjack extensibility
At 11:05 PM -0800 6/24/98, Anonymous wrote:
>NSA made a claim that Skipjack couldn't be extended past 80 bits of key. Most
>plausible explanation to my mind is that they're lying. Second is that
>there is
>an attack against a class of Skipjack-like ciphers that requires only a few
>plaintexts and 2^80 operations. Third is that some common key-lengthening
>tricks like those for 2-key-3DES, DES-X, and DEAL fail when applied to
>Skipjack. I can hardly fathom one resistant to all three, but I guess it's
>possible with NSA.

3DES is useful because DES does not form a group.  To the best of my
knowledge, Skipjack has not been analysed in this area (outside of Never
Say Anything).


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