NODE 2062d27aJoe Cypherpunk
"sixdegrees"<661850g1@auto.sixdegrees.com>Wed, 9 Sep 1998 20:09:49 +0800
Name: Ivan Cypherpunk
E-Mail Address: cypherpunks@algebra.com
sixdegrees Password: listhome
Hi. You've been sponsored as "Significant Other" by Joe Cypherpunk
as part of something called sixdegrees, one of the fastest growing
phenomena on the Web, located at http://www.sixdegrees.com
You may have already heard of the six degrees of separation concept
- where everyone on the planet is connected to each other through
fewer than 6 people. Well, we haven't quite connected the whole
world yet, but there are over a million people participating, and
over 900,000 of them are connected in one giant chain.
And, just by confirming your relationship with Joe, you can
instantly tap into this interconnected community of interesting people
from all over the world.
So what? Well, by getting connected, you can come to the Web site
(which is completely FREE) and use a whole variety of valuable, fun
and intriguing services that make use of this massive chain of
connections.
You can come see who's logged on the site right now and when you
find someone interesting, we'll show you exactly how you're
connected no matter how many degrees it takes, and then you can
instant message them.
You can also find out how you're connected to that head of personnel
at the big firm where you've been trying to get your foot in the
door.
You can chat with people from around the globe and then see who you
know in common.
You can post burning questions on your own personalized bulletin
board and get valuable answers from your "circle" (your friends
and friends of friends).
You can even get Movie recommendations from the people you're
connected to.
So, stop by the site at http://www.sixdegrees.com to learn more and
give it a try. (You can log in with this password: listhome).
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You can also get things started and get yourself connected right
from this e-mail:
** To confirm your relationship with Joe, just send a reply
that says only CONFIRM on the first line of the message body
* To deny this particular relationship (but keep open the
possibility of joining sixdegrees if the concept intrigues you)
send a reply that says only DENY
* And, if you'd like to make sure you don't hear from us again
(even if somebody else you know lists you as a contact) then
simply send a reply which says REMOVE in the SUBJECT LINE so
we can process your request right away
Thanks, and we look forward to seeing you at sixdegrees.
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And, if you're really ambitious, you can get your network of
connections growing right away. Just list the people you think might
be interested in participating in sixdegrees and we'll contact them
with an e-mail like this one which mentions your name and invites
them to join.
Just follow these directions:
* Click your mail program's REPLY button.
* On the FIRST line of the message body of the reply e-mail that
opens, type only the word CONFIRM to let us know that you
are in fact Joe's Significant Other.
* On the next line of the message body list the first and last
names and e-mail addresses of the people you'd like to invite
(you can list as many as you'd like - but we recommend you list
at least two), and the relationship numbers that correspond
with how those people are related to you.
MAKE SURE:
* That the first name, last name, e-mail address and relationship
number are separated by SEMI-COLONS.
* You follow the format of these examples:
John; Smith; jsmith@fakeplace.com; 12
Jane; Doe; superjane@fakeplace.com; 3
* And that you define each relationship by choosing a number from
this list:
1=wife 2=husband 3=life partner
4=significant other 5=mother 6=father
7=sister 8=brother 9=daughter
10=son 11=other family member 12=friend
13=employer 14=employee 15=co-worker
16=client 17=service provider 18=business contact
19=fellow alum 20=acquaintance
We look forward to hearing from you!
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PLEASE NOTE: All replies to this address are processed by a
computer. If you have any problems, questions or requests send
an e-mail to issues@sixdegrees.com and you'll receive a prompt
and courteous response.
And, if you'd like to review our privacy statement just visit
http://www.sixdegrees.com/Public/About/Privacy.asp
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sixdegrees is Registered in the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.
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NODE 68d8d90fRe: Joe Cypherpunk
"Vladimir Z. Nuri" <vznuri@netcom.com>Fri, 11 Sep 1998 02:46:36 +0800
wow, a new site called sixdegrees.com, in which everyone
registers and reveals who their friends are. the privacy
implications are really incredible. yet supposedly
close to 1 million people joined, with 900,000 of them
connected!!
wow!! boy, it sure would be interesting to
write software that analyzed this data.
reminds me of another program someone wrote that looked
up proper nouns in the ciabase database, I think, and
showed the relationships. probably the kind of software
that intelligence agencies use all the time. pretty sophisticated.
amazing what the information revolution is bringing. in
many ways, extraordinary things can be done merely by
sloshing information around in creative ways. no one
has really predicted some of the coolest stuff that
is happening.
wheeeeeeee!!! cyberspace is so much fun!!!
NODE 469717d7Webs of Trust, Conspiracies, and Six Degrees of Cypherpunks
Bill Stewart <bill.stewart@pobox.com>Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:53:55 +0800
At 12:47 AM 9/11/98 -0700, Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote:
>wow, a new site called sixdegrees.com, in which everyone
>registers and reveals who their friends are. the privacy
>implications are really incredible. yet supposedly
>close to 1 million people joined, with 900,000 of them
>connected!!
We've got a somewhat related Cypherpunks problem,
which is PGP key signatures. The traditional software
likes chains of less than 4 deep, yet the last time
I checked the key servers, there were chains as deep as
12-14, and most people seemed to be at least 6 signatures
away from Phil Zimmermann or Derek Atkins, who were the
centers of the list at the time. (On the other hand,
I suppose a lot of signatures between Joe Cypherpunk,
Ivan Cypherpunk, T0T0M0nger, etc. could improve the averages :-)
The PGP Web of Trust key management tools have the
difficulty that they don't make it easy to decide which
signatures on your key to export when giving someone
a key to sign or distributing a key to a key server.
You can manage this somewhat by creating different
name/key pairs for different uses, with your
Phil Zimmermann, Respected Entrepreneur
key signed by venture capitalists and your
Phil Zimmermann, Anti-Nuclear Activist
signed by your fellow activists, and trying to make
sure that people who attend meetings at the bank building
where you have your office digitally sign in with their
Respectable Software Developer or Free Speech Activist personnas,
and not with their
Buddhist Temple Assault Rifle Shooting Club
personnas that seem to overlap with the Respected Entrepreneur web....
I'm not sure how solvable a problem this is -
there are some parts that are easier to solve, like
- storing secret keyrings entirely in encrypted form
This could be done using a disk encryptor instead,
or could be done using an additional passphrase
to unlock the keyring before determining whether
the specific key you want it on it; both are annoying.
The threat is the attack currently being used against T0T0,
whose secret keyring had a key for a personna that signed a
supposedly incriminating message. In his case, it was probably
just ranting or humor, but there are some PGP users who really
_are_ trying to overthrow their governments.
and friendlier GUI tools (e.g. the current PGPkeys lets you
add and delete signatures from a key in the keyring,
but doesn't let you decide which ones to export except
by deleting them (or by exporting to a separate keyring
and using the GUI on that keyring, which is awkward.)
Thanks!
Bill
Bill Stewart, bill.stewart@pobox.com
PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639