RE: A Cypherpunk Trial, Yes

Graham-John Bullers [SMTP:real@EDMC.net] wrote:

	>As i'am one of persons mention in Toto's posts I
	>would just like to say I think the posts were a
	>joke.  With the help of of Vullis I was a pain to
	>the list and this was Toto's way of acknowledging
	>this To the government readers of this list,the
	>cigar was Cuban,will you put Bill in the cell with
	>Toto.

	I, too, was suprised to find myself mentioned in
	one of the postings John Young has highlighted.  I
	hadn't noticed this before, since Toto's rants
	were among the 50%+ of cpunks postings I marked as
	read without actually reading them.

	The Poster Currently Known As Toto mentioned an
	awful lot of people by name, purportedly engaged
	in all kinds of nefarious activities.  The same
	post also names Tim May, Adam Back, Declan
	McCullagh, Ulf Moller, Kent Crispen, and Blanc
	Weber. I'm let off easy, being characterized 
	as only a 'terroist [sic] InterNet forger'. 
	I think that this is because I once complained 
	when someone (possibly Toto) forged a message 
	in my name. To put it in the plainest possible
	terms: I have never in my life forged a message.

	Peter Trei

At 7:52 AM -0700 9/11/98, Trei, Peter wrote:

>	I, too, was suprised to find myself mentioned in
>	one of the postings John Young has highlighted.  I
>	hadn't noticed this before, since Toto's rants
>	were among the 50%+ of cpunks postings I marked as
>	read without actually reading them.

As I've said, I started deleting the posts from Toto, TruthMonger, Human
Gus-Peter, Linda Reed, and other totonyms about a year ago. I did this, "in
toto," one might say. As soon as I saw a long rant with a bunch of odd
stuff, mixtures of caps, references to Country Porn, Space Aliens,
Bienfait, etc., I hit the delete button.

But before this, I saw of course that we were playing starring roles in his
fantastical rants.

And Toto often forged our names on his rants and threats. I count this as a
kind of blessing, in that any attempt to prosecute us based on our posts
will run smack into this forgery issue...at least a speed bump in the
process of proving in court that some text fragment was actually written by
someone they claim it was written by.


>
>	The Poster Currently Known As Toto mentioned an
>	awful lot of people by name, purportedly engaged
>	in all kinds of nefarious activities.  The same
>	post also names Tim May, Adam Back, Declan
>	McCullagh, Ulf Moller, Kent Crispen, and Blanc
>	Weber. I'm let off easy, being characterized
>	as only a 'terroist [sic] InterNet forger'.
>	I think that this is because I once complained
>	when someone (possibly Toto) forged a message
>	in my name. To put it in the plainest possible
>	terms: I have never in my life forged a message.

Yep. I expect several of us may get subpoenas in this case. Either to
refute what is claimed, to support what is claimed, or just to clarify who
wrote what.

I plan to rely only on my memory. If they want me to try to reconstruct my
own e-mail archives, currently resident on several different disk drives,
some on CD-ROM, some in my gun safe, some in my safe deposit box, well,
this would require much work on my part. I presume they'll pay my
consulting fees for doing this work. Otherwise, it'll be just my memory.

"No, I have no direct recollection of the post you mention...."

--Tim May

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> 	in all kinds of nefarious activities.  The same
> 	post also names Tim May, Adam Back, Declan
> 	McCullagh, Ulf Moller, Kent Crispen, and Blanc
> 	Weber. I'm let off easy, being characterized 
> 	as only a 'terroist [sic] InterNet forger'. 
> 	I think that this is because I once complained 
> 	when someone (possibly Toto) forged a message 
> 	in my name.

Hm. I hadn't seen that before.

I didn't forge any messages or complain about forgeries, and I haven't
claimed to have been working on proving the validity of the need for
legislation declaring the value of Pi to be 3.0, either. If there is
any truth in the Nutly News, it must be something else. :)