Re: What it's like to get a subpoena (re Toto) (fwd)

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> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:25:01 -0400
> From: John Young <jya@pipeline.com>
> Subject: Re: What it's like to get a subpoena (re Toto) (fwd)

> It's tough being the earliest ones contacted, having to decide
> as Tom and Jim have had to do about whether to go public
> or deal with the inquiries in private and hope that nothing worse
> develops.

That's what worries me, once the snowball gets rolling... I mean jeesh, I
run a program that handles email. This sort of stuff is exactly why I don't
like interacting with people via private email unless I know them personaly
(ie via non-electronic means). The software is publicly available and
certainly doesn't need me to explain it. While I can see some interest in
wanting to know what CJ/Toto/aka said to me that night on the phone and the
next day at the physical meet, it makes me wonder exactly what am I
*supposed* to know about...

> It's that switch from friendly and couterous to the other that
> none of want to think about, eh? "You're under arrest. Anything
> you say can and will be used against you." Hmm, what was I
> saying, posting, here.

Ahmen. Though a more insidous threat is the 'network' that gets built out of
it. I wonder if this means every time some bozo I happen to run across goes
postal I'm going to be 'investigated'? I wonder how long a name stays on
those (probably) non-existant lists?

> Makes a more convincing case to have a live body telling the
> facts of the matter, explaining how things work, somewhat eager 
> to instruct and please, in self-preservation, to keep the cops and
> court friendly and courteous. What was told to the investigators 
> in private, that's what hung Jim Bell and CJ.

That was the ultimate reason that I went ahead and posted it. That way
somebody *besides* me knew about it.

> Then the friendly folks came for you and me, working a list.

Which is the reason I'm talking to a lawyer to find out specificaly what is
going on. I mean in my own self interest and the continued existance of
TAG:SSZ it seems to be the thing to do. As far as I know I won't have access
to council once I'm in there.


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Was watching "One Tough Cop" last weekend starring the younger and less
successful brothers of a couple of male leads.  

An NYC police drama filmed in Toronto.  

The otherwise "B" movie was enlivened by a somewhat less than sympathetic
treatment of the two FBI agents who were leaning on "One Tough Cop."  They
wanted him to plant a bug on his childhood friend who was a member of a
Sicilian social organization.  

The movie also featured two crack heads who raped and murdered a nun.  The
FBI agents got worse screen treatment than the crack heads.  

Our hero's chats with the Fibbies were always laced with strings of
obscenities meant to convey to them that he did not intend to help them.
The film showed that he did not suffer professional reversals because of
his treatment of Fibbies.  

DCF