NODE 88270f86Re: What's up with algebra.com?
John Young <jya@pipeline.com>Mon, 19 Oct 1998 08:41:48 +0800
What with the Feds now going after CJ for attempted
murder of federal officials (film ad overkill!), Jeff Gordon
soliciting cypherpunk subscribers to flesh that fancy,
and one CDR operator flattered with a subpoena, it'd be
prudent to have a way to check on whether a CDR node
has been taken down or turned, and the operator hogtied
with the system as evidence (or forced to run a sting to
gather it), before a clamp's put on telling what's going on.
May be too late, too late.
Recall it's a major offense for revealing placement of a
wiretap, surveillance or a covert investigation -- especially
if you're assisting, willingly or unwillingly.
Not that one should advocate hiding what might be construed
as evidence or exposing underbelly work that's ordered concealed.
Why that might be taken to be pushing a conspiracy against
WMD-crazed authority rather than promoting personal hygiene
with lots of sunshine and vigorous exercise of rights to fanciful
imaginings of what a world would be like without minders galore.
Whistling in the dark, mind you.
Consider that there are 118,000 federal prisoners. That's a very
big inhospitality business, and its growing, private and feds rubbing
hands and futures. For an overview of exactly how the chain
operates (in case you're planning a stay or a stock buy) gander
the list of its bountiful rules and regs:
http://jya.com/bop-progstat.htm
Inmates are forbidden access to the Internet (PS 1241.02 Internet
and the World Wide Web), however, they are encouraged to do
creative writing (PS 5350.07 Inmate Manuscripts), so Jim Bell,
CJ and a few of us deserve a suite overlooking the garden of
evil.
NODE e8b6f5acRe: What's up with algebra.com?
ichudov@Algebra.COM (Igor Chudov @ home)Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:09:57 +0800
As far as algebra.com is concerned, the list went down because
my upstream site just installed anti-relaying rules, and everything
going to algebra.com was rejected. Also, sendmail was not setuid
and could not create mqueue files.
I wish I could boast receiving attention from the IRS/BATF or
whatever, but so far i has not happened.
igor
John Young wrote:
>
>
> What with the Feds now going after CJ for attempted
> murder of federal officials (film ad overkill!), Jeff Gordon
> soliciting cypherpunk subscribers to flesh that fancy,
> and one CDR operator flattered with a subpoena, it'd be
> prudent to have a way to check on whether a CDR node
> has been taken down or turned, and the operator hogtied
> with the system as evidence (or forced to run a sting to
> gather it), before a clamp's put on telling what's going on.
>
> May be too late, too late.
>
> Recall it's a major offense for revealing placement of a
> wiretap, surveillance or a covert investigation -- especially
> if you're assisting, willingly or unwillingly.
>
> Not that one should advocate hiding what might be construed
> as evidence or exposing underbelly work that's ordered concealed.
> Why that might be taken to be pushing a conspiracy against
> WMD-crazed authority rather than promoting personal hygiene
> with lots of sunshine and vigorous exercise of rights to fanciful
> imaginings of what a world would be like without minders galore.
>
> Whistling in the dark, mind you.
>
> Consider that there are 118,000 federal prisoners. That's a very
> big inhospitality business, and its growing, private and feds rubbing
> hands and futures. For an overview of exactly how the chain
> operates (in case you're planning a stay or a stock buy) gander
> the list of its bountiful rules and regs:
>
> http://jya.com/bop-progstat.htm
>
> Inmates are forbidden access to the Internet (PS 1241.02 Internet
> and the World Wide Web), however, they are encouraged to do
> creative writing (PS 5350.07 Inmate Manuscripts), so Jim Bell,
> CJ and a few of us deserve a suite overlooking the garden of
> evil.
>
>
>
- Igor.
NODE af29f050Re: What's up with algebra.com?
"William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@invweb.net>Tue, 20 Oct 1998 01:51:36 +0800
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In <199810190043.TAA03178@manifold.algebra.com>, on 10/18/98
at 07:43 PM, ichudov@Algebra.COM (Igor Chudov @ home) said:
>As far as algebra.com is concerned, the list went down because my
>upstream site just installed anti-relaying rules, and everything going to
>algebra.com was rejected. Also, sendmail was not setuid and could not
>create mqueue files.
>I wish I could boast receiving attention from the IRS/BATF or whatever,
>but so far i has not happened.
What is with these fascist ISP who think they have a *right* to regulate
the data stream of others? What's next, are they going to start blocking
domains because they don't like what is on a web page, or because they
don't like an e-mail message someone posts??
Don't have to worry about government censorship there are plenty of
civilians that are willing to do the work for them. :(
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