NODE 3059db0fmanners
Richard.Bragg@ssa.co.ukFri, 20 Nov 1998 00:03:12 +0800
There are ways and means. If someone requests software that is NOT free
then a simple NO will surfice. A list of contacts to purchase would aid
income for the producer.
An additional approach would be to suggest alternatives that are free.
There is never any call to be rude.
NODE 038bcb10RE: manners
"Iain Collins" <icollins@scotland.net>Fri, 20 Nov 1998 01:14:03 +0800
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@toad.com]On
> Behalf Of Richard.Bragg@ssa.co.uk
> Sent: 19 November 1998 15:15
> To: cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: manners
>
>
> There are ways and means. If someone requests software that is NOT free
> then a simple NO will surfice. A list of contacts to purchase would aid
> income for the producer.
> An additional approach would be to suggest alternatives that are free.
>
> There is never any call to be rude.
It is _rude_ to ask for stolen goods - particularly when implicating
everyone on this list as an accessory to intent to commit piracy - who does
not report this luser to the authorities in the - process.
It is also rude to send inappropriate posts to this mailing list. This is
the cypherpunks mailing list - Not an IRC or hotline channel. Warez requests
are wholly inappropriate for this list, please read the FAQ!
The suggestion to seek free alternatives is well grounded, although I'd add
that they would more appropriately be sent directly to the poster (with a
polite note referring him to the FAQ).
Regards,
Iain Collins, <dev-null@icollins.sol.co.uk>
NODE ec6daf52RE: manners
Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>Fri, 20 Nov 1998 22:58:35 +0800
At 10:48 AM 11-19-98 -0800, Tim May wrote:
>Nonsense. I am not "implicated" as an accessory to anything. Speak for
>yourself only.
>
>There is no basis in law for the notion that several hundred subscribers to
>a mailing list are implicated in something because others talk about it.
>Get real.
One might as well claim that all the millions of subscribers to the LA
Times are "implicated" as accessories to an act that was described in the
paper's pages.
-Declan
NODE 5bf7a927RE: manners
Tim May <tcmay@got.net>Fri, 20 Nov 1998 03:36:35 +0800
At 8:21 AM -0800 11/19/98, Iain Collins wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@toad.com]On
>> Behalf Of Richard.Bragg@ssa.co.uk
>> Sent: 19 November 1998 15:15
>> To: cypherpunks@toad.com
>> Subject: manners
>>
>>
>> There are ways and means. If someone requests software that is NOT free
>> then a simple NO will surfice. A list of contacts to purchase would aid
>> income for the producer.
>> An additional approach would be to suggest alternatives that are free.
>>
>> There is never any call to be rude.
>
>It is _rude_ to ask for stolen goods - particularly when implicating
>everyone on this list as an accessory to intent to commit piracy - who does
>not report this luser to the authorities in the - process.
Nonsense. I am not "implicated" as an accessory to anything. Speak for
yourself only.
There is no basis in law for the notion that several hundred subscribers to
a mailing list are implicated in something because others talk about it.
Get real.
As for the claim that we are "lusers" if we don't report this request, let
us know how your own report is received. I will check for your posts
regularly, and report you to the proper authorities if you fail in your
self-declared duty here.
--Tim May
Common Y2K line: "I'm not preparing, but I know where _you_ live."
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NODE 4159b1f8Re: manners
Rabid Wombat <wombat@mcfeely.bsfs.org>Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:24:49 +0800
On Thu, 19 Nov 1998 Richard.Bragg@ssa.co.uk wrote:
> There are ways and means. If someone requests software that is NOT free
> then a simple NO will surfice. A list of contacts to purchase would aid
> income for the producer.
> An additional approach would be to suggest alternatives that are free.
>
> There is never any call to be rude.
>
Way to go, Dick!