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NODE a8cc59bfGlobal Strike to protest Wassenaar
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Hi,

"Strike to protest Wassenaar!"

URL:  http://www.zanshin.com/~bobg/

"This is a global call for computer professionals to strike on 
Monday, 14 December, 1998 to protest the signing of the Wassenaar
Arrangement, an international treaty that imposes new restrictions 
on cryptographic software technology. The strike is meant to raise
awareness about the importance of cryptography, about the U.S. 
government's wrongheaded attempts to curtail its use, and about the 
strong-arm tactics used by the United States to pressure other 
countries into limiting their citizens' rights the way it has 
limited its own."


Regards,

Ken Williams

Packet Storm Security        http://www.Genocide2600.com/~tattooman/
E.H.A.P. Head of Operations  http://www.ehap.org/   ehap@ehap.org
NC State CS Dept  http://www.csc.ncsu.edu/   jkwilli2@unity.ncsu.edu
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NODE d46ef828Re: Global Strike to protest Wassenaar
This is an excellent idea...  I have just massmailed an announcement
to our members: Missouri FreeNet will not be be operating on 14 December.
Has anyone considered creating a (web?) list of persons and organizations
who have committed to this strike? People are more likely to participate
when they know they are no alone...

Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
sysadmin@mfn.org

--
If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...
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On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Ken Williams wrote:

:Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:05:58 -0500 (EST)
:From: Ken Williams <jkwilli2@unity.ncsu.edu>
:To: cypherpunks@toad.com
:Subject: Global Strike to protest Wassenaar
:
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:
:Hi,
:
:"Strike to protest Wassenaar!"
:
:URL:  http://www.zanshin.com/~bobg/
:
:"This is a global call for computer professionals to strike on 
:Monday, 14 December, 1998 to protest the signing of the Wassenaar
:Arrangement, an international treaty that imposes new restrictions 
:on cryptographic software technology. The strike is meant to raise
:awareness about the importance of cryptography, about the U.S. 
:government's wrongheaded attempts to curtail its use, and about the 
:strong-arm tactics used by the United States to pressure other 
:countries into limiting their citizens' rights the way it has 
:limited its own."
:
:
:Regards,
:
:Ken Williams
:
:Packet Storm Security        http://www.Genocide2600.com/~tattooman/
:E.H.A.P. Head of Operations  http://www.ehap.org/   ehap@ehap.org
:NC State CS Dept  http://www.csc.ncsu.edu/   jkwilli2@unity.ncsu.edu
:PGP DSS/DH/RSA Keys          http://www4.ncsu.edu/~jkwilli2/pgpkey/
:
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NODE cb28625eRe: Global Strike to protest Wassenaar
I believe that a mass strike only hurts our employers, not the gov'ts
that are afflicting us with crap like Wassenaar. I propose that we
designate Monday "International Export Crypto Day". We should pick a
gov't agency or member (in a gov't other than our own) and email crypto 
to him/her. Mass effort will demonstrate the absolute idiocy of
regulations like Wassenaar. maybe even a mass chain letter with RSA in 3
lines of perl emailed all over the world and forward via typical chain
letter mechanisms. 

so
privsoft@ix.netcom.com


Missouri FreeNet Administration wrote:
> 
> This is an excellent idea...  I have just massmailed an announcement
> to our members: Missouri FreeNet will not be be operating on 14 December.
> Has anyone considered creating a (web?) list of persons and organizations
> who have committed to this strike? People are more likely to participate
> when they know they are no alone...
> 
> Yours,
> J.A. Terranson
> sysadmin@mfn.org
> 
> --
> If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
> should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
> Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
> unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
> the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and
> elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
> populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
> This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
> as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
> 
> The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
> associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
> those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
> first place...
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Ken Williams wrote:
> 
> :Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:05:58 -0500 (EST)
> :From: Ken Williams <jkwilli2@unity.ncsu.edu>
> :To: cypherpunks@toad.com
> :Subject: Global Strike to protest Wassenaar
> :
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> :
> :
> :Hi,
> :
> :"Strike to protest Wassenaar!"
> :
> :URL:  http://www.zanshin.com/~bobg/
> :
> :"This is a global call for computer professionals to strike on
> :Monday, 14 December, 1998 to protest the signing of the Wassenaar
> :Arrangement, an international treaty that imposes new restrictions
> :on cryptographic software technology. The strike is meant to raise
> :awareness about the importance of cryptography, about the U.S.
> :government's wrongheaded attempts to curtail its use, and about the
> :strong-arm tactics used by the United States to pressure other
> :countries into limiting their citizens' rights the way it has
> :limited its own."
> :
> :
> :Regards,
> :
> :Ken Williams
> :
> :Packet Storm Security        http://www.Genocide2600.com/~tattooman/
> :E.H.A.P. Head of Operations  http://www.ehap.org/   ehap@ehap.org
> :NC State CS Dept  http://www.csc.ncsu.edu/   jkwilli2@unity.ncsu.edu
> :PGP DSS/DH/RSA Keys          http://www4.ncsu.edu/~jkwilli2/pgpkey/
> :
> :___________________________________________________________________
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NODE 98db2120Re: Global Strike to protest Wassenaar
I agree that the primary damage, and resultant attention, is [necessarily]
focused upon those whom [indirectly] had the least to do with "inflicting"
this upon us (very accurately put), however, it is also the way most
likely to generate the necessary awareness of the issues.  Our biggest
problem isn't that Wassenaar is forced upon us by bureaucrats: our problem
is that hundreds of these types of things are forced upon us every year,
and *nobody cares*.  Our people have become so totally numbed and
apathetic, that if they are not "bitten" directly, they could care less.

I submit that this strike allows them to be bitten, albeit mildly, and
that this *may* (and may very well *not*) raise their attention level a
notch or two...

Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
sysadmin@mfn.org

--
If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...
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On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Steve Orrin wrote:

:Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 19:10:34 -0500
:From: Steve Orrin <privsoft@ix.netcom.com>
:To: Missouri FreeNet Administration <measl@mfn.org>,
:    Ken Williams <jkwilli2@unity.ncsu.edu>
:Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com, cypherpunks@algebra.com,
:    cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com
:Subject: Re: Global Strike to protest Wassenaar
:
:I believe that a mass strike only hurts our employers, not the gov'ts
:that are afflicting us with crap like Wassenaar. I propose that we
:designate Monday "International Export Crypto Day". We should pick a
:gov't agency or member (in a gov't other than our own) and email crypto 
:to him/her. Mass effort will demonstrate the absolute idiocy of
:regulations like Wassenaar. maybe even a mass chain letter with RSA in 3
:lines of perl emailed all over the world and forward via typical chain
:letter mechanisms. 
:
:so
:privsoft@ix.netcom.com
:
:
:Missouri FreeNet Administration wrote:
:> 
:> This is an excellent idea...  I have just massmailed an announcement
:> to our members: Missouri FreeNet will not be be operating on 14 December.
:> Has anyone considered creating a (web?) list of persons and organizations
:> who have committed to this strike? People are more likely to participate
:> when they know they are no alone...
:> 
:> Yours,
:> J.A. Terranson
:> sysadmin@mfn.org
:> 
:> --
:> If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
:> should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
:> Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
:> unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
:> the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and
:> elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
:> populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
:> This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
:> as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
:> 
:> The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
:> associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
:> those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
:> first place...
:> --------------------------------------------------------------------
:> 
:> On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Ken Williams wrote:
:> 
:> :Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:05:58 -0500 (EST)
:> :From: Ken Williams <jkwilli2@unity.ncsu.edu>
:> :To: cypherpunks@toad.com
:> :Subject: Global Strike to protest Wassenaar
:> :
:> :-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
:> :
:> :
:> :Hi,
:> :
:> :"Strike to protest Wassenaar!"
:> :
:> :URL:  http://www.zanshin.com/~bobg/
:> :
:> :"This is a global call for computer professionals to strike on
:> :Monday, 14 December, 1998 to protest the signing of the Wassenaar
:> :Arrangement, an international treaty that imposes new restrictions
:> :on cryptographic software technology. The strike is meant to raise
:> :awareness about the importance of cryptography, about the U.S.
:> :government's wrongheaded attempts to curtail its use, and about the
:> :strong-arm tactics used by the United States to pressure other
:> :countries into limiting their citizens' rights the way it has
:> :limited its own."
:> :
:> :
:> :Regards,
:> :
:> :Ken Williams
:> :
:> :Packet Storm Security        http://www.Genocide2600.com/~tattooman/
:> :E.H.A.P. Head of Operations  http://www.ehap.org/   ehap@ehap.org
:> :NC State CS Dept  http://www.csc.ncsu.edu/   jkwilli2@unity.ncsu.edu
:> :PGP DSS/DH/RSA Keys          http://www4.ncsu.edu/~jkwilli2/pgpkey/
:> :
:> :___________________________________________________________________
:> :Get Your Email Sniffed and Decrypted for Free at http://www.nsa.gov
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NODE 23841f97Re: Global Strike to protest Wassenaar
At 9:05 AM -0500 on 12/10/98, Ken Williams wrote:

> "Strike to protest Wassenaar!"
>
> URL:  http://www.zanshin.com/~bobg/
>
> "This is a global call for computer professionals to strike on
> Monday, 14 December, 1998 to protest the signing of the Wassenaar
> Arrangement, an international treaty that imposes new restrictions
> on cryptographic software technology.

Now, *this* is interesting...

Anyone actually contemplating doing this?

I mean, we could *all* stand to do a little extra (meatspace) Christmas
shopping on Monday, right?

(Then, I guess, we could all do our cypherspace Christmas shopping on
*Tuesday*, just to drive the point home, stick-and-carrot-wise...)



Cheers,
Robert Hettinga
-----------------
Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah@philodox.com>
Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/>
44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA
"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity,
[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to
experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
NODE 258b0d0cRe: Anyone Striking?
At 10:29 AM -0500 on 12/14/98, James Glave wrote:


> Anyone participating in the strike today?

Evidently not...

Cheers,
Robert Hettinga
-----------------
Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah@philodox.com>
Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/>
44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA
"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity,
[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to
experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
NODE 28118cbdRe: Global Strike to protest Wassenaar
Not only will Maximum Web Design (www.max-web.com) not be operating on
December 14, I have plenty of bandwith for a page with all the
participants. Would be happy to maintain it too...

Please e-mail me. anti-wassenaar@max-web.com

Only serious requests -=WITH A URL=- will be accepted.
Will post the address to the list asap.

At 10:11 AM 12/10/98 -0600, you wrote:
>
>This is an excellent idea...  I have just massmailed an announcement
>to our members: Missouri FreeNet will not be be operating on 14 December.
>Has anyone considered creating a (web?) list of persons and organizations
>who have committed to this strike? People are more likely to participate
>when they know they are no alone...
>
>Yours, 
>J.A. Terranson
>sysadmin@mfn.org
>
>--
>If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
>should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
>Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
>unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
>the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
>elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
>populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
>This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
>as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
>
>The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
>associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
>those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
>first place...
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Ken Williams wrote:
>
>:Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:05:58 -0500 (EST)
>:From: Ken Williams <jkwilli2@unity.ncsu.edu>
>:To: cypherpunks@toad.com
>:Subject: Global Strike to protest Wassenaar
>:
>:-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>:
>:
>:Hi,
>:
>:"Strike to protest Wassenaar!"
>:
>:URL:  http://www.zanshin.com/~bobg/
>:
>:"This is a global call for computer professionals to strike on 
>:Monday, 14 December, 1998 to protest the signing of the Wassenaar
>:Arrangement, an international treaty that imposes new restrictions 
>:on cryptographic software technology. The strike is meant to raise
>:awareness about the importance of cryptography, about the U.S. 
>:government's wrongheaded attempts to curtail its use, and about the 
>:strong-arm tactics used by the United States to pressure other 
>:countries into limiting their citizens' rights the way it has 
>:limited its own."
>:
>:
>:Regards,
>:
>:Ken Williams
>:
>:Packet Storm Security        http://www.Genocide2600.com/~tattooman/
>:E.H.A.P. Head of Operations  http://www.ehap.org/   ehap@ehap.org
>:NC State CS Dept  http://www.csc.ncsu.edu/   jkwilli2@unity.ncsu.edu
>:PGP DSS/DH/RSA Keys          http://www4.ncsu.edu/~jkwilli2/pgpkey/
>:
>:___________________________________________________________________ 
>:Get Your Email Sniffed and Decrypted for Free at http://www.nsa.gov
>:
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>
-Kevlar <RulerAllMighty@max-web.com>
NODE a8ec5bd2Re: Global Strike to protest Wassenaar
>>Not only will Maximum Web Design (www.max-web.com) not be operating on
>>December 14, I have plenty of bandwith for a page with all the
>>participants. Would be happy to maintain it too...
>
>>Please e-mail me. anti-wassenaar@max-web.com
>
>>Only serious requests -=WITH A URL=- will be accepted.
>>Will post the address to the list asap.
>
>The domain of openpgp.net will be down in protest on the 14th. Perhaps
>someone could design a common webpage that we all could use outlining why
>our sites are down.

If some of y'all out there would go ahead and post some of your
reasons for "striking," I'll be more than happy to air it on my
web page.  Try to post these to the list [ATTN: Sheriff] by
the 12th, or the 13th at the latest.  All such posts will be
slapped up on my web page, at the URL mentioned in my sig.  Cheers.

Love, luck, and marijuana lollipops,
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NODE b86b6e0eRe: Global Strike to protest Wassenaar
In <3.0.6.32.19981210163644.0088ec30@max-web.com>, on 12/10/98 
   at 04:36 PM, Kevlar <webmaster@max-web.com> said:

>Not only will Maximum Web Design (www.max-web.com) not be operating on
>December 14, I have plenty of bandwith for a page with all the
>participants. Would be happy to maintain it too...

>Please e-mail me. anti-wassenaar@max-web.com

>Only serious requests -=WITH A URL=- will be accepted.
>Will post the address to the list asap.

The domain of openpgp.net will be down in protest on the 14th. Perhaps
someone could design a common webpage that we all could use outlining why
our sites are down.

I also plan on bouncing all mail to the openpgp.net domain on that day. :)

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NODE f5387e63Anyone Striking?
Anyone participating in the strike today? I'd like to possibly visit this
with a news story...

jtg

At 03:10 PM 12/10/98 -0500, Robert Hettinga wrote:
>At 9:05 AM -0500 on 12/10/98, Ken Williams wrote:
>
>> "Strike to protest Wassenaar!"
>>
>> URL:  http://www.zanshin.com/~bobg/
>>
>> "This is a global call for computer professionals to strike on
>> Monday, 14 December, 1998 to protest the signing of the Wassenaar
>> Arrangement, an international treaty that imposes new restrictions
>> on cryptographic software technology.
>
>Now, *this* is interesting...
>
>Anyone actually contemplating doing this?


James Glave, News Editor, Wired News, http://www.wired.com  +1 (415) 276-8430
NODE 3d178dc4Re: Anyone Striking?
James Glave writes:
> Anyone participating in the strike today? I'd like to possibly visit this
> with a news story...

I find it exceptionally unlikely that many people are participating in
this. Whomever called the thing was not thinking very clearly. You
need at least several weeks notice for such a thing to work, and the
two or three days notice (at most) that was given was way too small. A
strike of this nature might work, but only if someone with political
sense were organizing it.

Perry
NODE 394b4751Re: Anyone Striking?
"Perry E. Metzger" wrote:
> 
> James Glave writes:
> > Anyone participating in the strike today? I'd like to possibly visit this
> > with a news story...
> 
> I find it exceptionally unlikely that many people are participating in
> this. Whomever called the thing was not thinking very clearly. You
> need at least several weeks notice for such a thing to work, and the
> two or three days notice (at most) that was given was way too small. A
> strike of this nature might work, but only if someone with political
> sense were organizing it.
> 
> Perry

I'm striking.  Likely for more than a week more...


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NODE e76235cdRe: Anyone Striking?
Not striking.....

but I am not working very hard today :-)




At 11:01 AM 12/14/98 -0500, Robert Hettinga wrote:
>At 10:29 AM -0500 on 12/14/98, James Glave wrote:
>
>
>> Anyone participating in the strike today?
>
>Evidently not...
>
>Cheers,
>Robert Hettinga
>-----------------
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>Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/>
>44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA
>"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity,
>[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to
>experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
>
>
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NODE c3274cc6Re: Anyone Striking?
On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, William J.Hartwell wrote:

> Not striking.....
> 
> but I am not working very hard today :-)
> 

I didn't get into the office until after noon. That oughta be worth 
something ... 

yawn
NODE 7d9d1117Re: Anyone Striking?
We just returned from this.  Feel free to ask whatever you'd like.

Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
sysadmin@mfn.org

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If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...
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On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, James Glave wrote:

:Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 07:29:32 -0800
:From: James Glave <james@wired.com>
:To: Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>
:Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com, cryptography@c2.net, dcsb@ai.mit.edu
:Subject: Anyone Striking?
:
:Anyone participating in the strike today? I'd like to possibly visit this
:with a news story...
:
:jtg
:
:At 03:10 PM 12/10/98 -0500, Robert Hettinga wrote:
:>At 9:05 AM -0500 on 12/10/98, Ken Williams wrote:
:>
:>> "Strike to protest Wassenaar!"
:>>
:>> URL:  http://www.zanshin.com/~bobg/
:>>
:>> "This is a global call for computer professionals to strike on
:>> Monday, 14 December, 1998 to protest the signing of the Wassenaar
:>> Arrangement, an international treaty that imposes new restrictions
:>> on cryptographic software technology.
:>
:>Now, *this* is interesting...
:>
:>Anyone actually contemplating doing this?
:
:
:James Glave, News Editor, Wired News, http://www.wired.com  +1 (415) 276-8430
: