pgp disk

>At 03:05 AM 12/5/98 +0100, Anonymous wrote about some new product:
>>If the source code isn't available, don't trust it. That's a good general
>>rule.
>
>
>Where is the source for pgpfone?

Good question. That's why I wouldn't use it either. (I haven't had reason to
use it, so 'll take Anonymous's word that source isn't available.)

If people want to release software like this, they need a better argument
for its security than "Trust us, it's secure." 

Considering that there is no net loss when developers of such a product
release source code so that people can look it over and compile it
themselves, I don't have any reason to trust such software.

Aren't McAfee and PGP Inc. members of KRAP and promoting Big Brother Inside?
I've lost track.

On 5 Dec 1998, HyperReal-Anon wrote:
>>>If the source code isn't available, don't trust it. That's a good general
>>>rule.
I dont believe he is saying source is not available because it is.  In
book form, currently getting scanned in europe somehwere where the
Wersaanar(i dont care i misspelt it) was not signed

>>Where is the source for pgpfone?

Try pgpi.com, i believe if anyone has it they would.. maybe mit
>
>Good question. That's why I wouldn't use it either. (I haven't had reason to
>use it, so 'll take Anonymous's word that source isn't available.)
See above, however, Scram disk has been around more, and it's source
is available

>If people want to release software like this, they need a better argument
>for its security than "Trust us, it's secure." 

Agreed, thats why in PGP's case source is released.

>Considering that there is no net loss when developers of such a product
>release source code so that people can look it over and compile it
>themselves, I don't have any reason to trust such software.

Actually in theory there is, people can steal code, use progs without
paying etcetera. (the latter is available through "juarez" though)

>Aren't McAfee and PGP Inc. members of KRAP and promoting Big Brother Inside?
>I've lost track.

McAfee does not exist, neither does PGP Inc, in a merger of those two and
Network General, they formed Network Associates.  Later NetAss purchased
TIS, for their firewall mind you, and they were members of KRAP .  so NAI
was officially brough in.

Max
--   Max Inux <maxinux@openpgp.net>  Hey Christy!!! New Keys per-request
       If crypto is outlawed only outlaws will have crypto

In <Pine.LNX.4.02.9812051155290.30678-100000@khercs.chipware.net>, on
12/05/98 
   at 11:59 AM, Max Inux <maxinux@openpgp.net> said:

>>>Where is the source for pgpfone?

>Try pgpi.com, i believe if anyone has it they would.. maybe mit

AFAIK the source for PGPfone has never been released. I had wanted to do a
port to the OS/2 platform but was never able to get the source code for
it.

Nautilas has source available but I do not know what platforms it has been
ported to.

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William H. Geiger III wrote:
> 
> In <Pine.LNX.4.02.9812051155290.30678-100000@khercs.chipware.net>, on
> 12/05/98
>    at 11:59 AM, Max Inux <maxinux@openpgp.net> said:
> 
> >>>Where is the source for pgpfone?
> 
> >Try pgpi.com, i believe if anyone has it they would.. maybe mit
> 
> AFAIK the source for PGPfone has never been released. I had wanted to do a
> port to the OS/2 platform but was never able to get the source code for
> it.
> 
> Nautilas has source available but I do not know what platforms it has been
> ported to.

Speak Freely can be found at these two sites:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/speakfree/unix/
http://www.fourmilab.ch/speakfree/windows/

It is free, has source code, and will work with pgp 2.6x.

-Doug
www.TheServerFarm.net